New lower control arm bushes
#1 _HRV74_
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:01 PM
I have new lower control arm bushes on the front (less than 1000km's old), and one has parted ways with the control arm already!
They were fitted by a good mechanic, and were nice and tight when fitted. These are rubber, not Nolathane.
Has anyone ever had experience with this type of thing before? How common is it?!
Thanks
Harve
PS: Not the clearest of pics, taken with the mob phone.
#2
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:06 PM
You know... sausage down a hallway
#3 _rorym_
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:15 PM
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#4
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:31 PM
#5 _HRV74_
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:39 PM
Thanks for the tip Rory, good to know that this can be prevented in the future.
Cheers
H
#6 _SS Hatchback_
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:45 PM
#7
Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:54 PM
It looks like the bush has moved out of the arm and the arm has moved up past the end of the bush (if that makes sense?)
#8 _HRV74_
Posted 15 January 2009 - 10:20 PM
Will get it pulled apart and looked at properly (by someone with much more of a clue than myself) in the next few days.
Cheers
H
#9
Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:24 AM
But the wishbone holes may still be cracked.
Edited by fuzzypumper, 16 January 2009 - 12:26 AM.
#10 _ass308_
Posted 16 January 2009 - 06:10 AM
#11 _SS Hatchback_
Posted 16 January 2009 - 08:59 AM
Edited by SS Hatchback, 16 January 2009 - 09:00 AM.
#12 _82911_
Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:49 PM
This is not necessary with urethane bushings as the crush tube pivots inside the urethane bush.
It looks to me like the bushes were torqued up with the suspension at full droop (on a hoist)
As for welding.... Just a tack or 3 ok!
Cheers Greg..
#13 _rorym_
Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:40 PM
R
#14 _HRV74_
Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:01 PM
(Forgot the camera, so it's another mob phone job):
However, I'm told that the control arms aren't perfect, and should be replaced to avoid dramas down the track. There were no cracks or anything nasty though.
Not even Rare Spares sell replacement arms these days (they used to sell reconditioned items that were painted in 2-pack and fitted with new bushes and ball joints).
Cheers
H
#15
Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:11 PM
#16
Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:11 PM
#17 _rorym_
Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:39 PM
I think Pedders are selling reco control arms now!
I would run away......
R
#18
Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:41 PM
#19
Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:56 AM
#20 _82911_
Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:59 PM
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.
Probably fall on deaf ears though, as i swear some of you blokes don't read 1/2 the stuff i post.
Buggered if i think i should bother.
#21
Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:05 PM
I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.
Probably fall on deaf ears though, as i swear some of you blokes don't read 1/2 the stuff i post.
Buggered if i think i should bother.
and some of us read everything you post to make up for the others
#22
Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:03 PM
I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.
It appears to be a common misconception.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/480776/3
This used to be done to introduce anti-dive into the front end for when you are braking.
Why are the bushes out of alignment and should you realign the bushes?
#23
Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:09 PM
I read it but never bothered about whether it was right or not because I'm happy to just accept them as they are. I'm also happy to believe what you say based on your previous posts here.I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.
Probably fall on deaf ears though, as i swear some of you blokes don't read 1/2 the stuff i post.
Buggered if i think i should bother.
Changing the camber or caster using the wheel alignment shims wouldn't introduce bind, would it? If it did wouldn't we need need major surgery to fix it?
#24 _82911_
Posted 20 January 2009 - 07:42 PM
thanks for the vote makka...
#25 _2ELCS_
Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:49 PM
Wayne.
ps i would like to have a chat one day if possible ?
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