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[dattoman]

Maybe your hole is too big

You know... sausage down a hallway

[TerrA LX]

That looks like the wishbone is cracked.

[rodomo]

I thought that too at first.
It looks like the bush has moved out of the arm and the arm has moved up past the end of the bush (if that makes sense?)

[fuzzypumper]

Yeah 2 of mine did that many years ago, just pushed them back in and spot welded like Rorym. They havent moved since.

But the wishbone holes may still be cracked.

Edited by fuzzypumper, 16 January 2009 - 12:26 AM.

[76lxhatch]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the bushes don't line up exactly with the pivot points on the factory arms and this was deliberate for some reason, hence the requirement for a softer bush. What's wrong with your arms, are they a bit twisted or something?

[Statler]

I think Pedders are selling reco control arms now!

[fuzzypumper]

I believe the pivots should not line up deliberately. It creates a binding effect that stops the front from diving under braking.

[76lxhatch]

That's it fuzzypumper, I knew I'd read it somewhere

[makka]

I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.

Probably fall on deaf ears though, as i swear some of you blokes don't read 1/2 the stuff i post.
Buggered if i think i should bother.

and some of us read everything you post to make up for the others

[ls2lxhatch]

I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.

It appears to be a common misconception.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/480776/3
This used to be done to introduce anti-dive into the front end for when you are braking.

Why are the bushes out of alignment and should you realign the bushes?

[76lxhatch]

I have to comment on the bushes being set up deliberately with a bind in them to help with anti-dive.
That's rubbish...rubbish..... rubbish..
The only time that a bush is pulled out of alignment is if the geometry settings are altered from factory, like adding castor or camber.
If you want anti dive geometry it can be modified into the design,BUT you don't do it by binding up a bush.

Probably fall on deaf ears though, as i swear some of you blokes don't read 1/2 the stuff i post.
Buggered if i think i should bother.

I read it but never bothered about whether it was right or not because I'm happy to just accept them as they are. I'm also happy to believe what you say based on your previous posts here.

Changing the camber or caster using the wheel alignment shims wouldn't introduce bind, would it? If it did wouldn't we need need major surgery to fix it?