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Lowered springs in my LX, 4WD stance

Started by LS1LX , Nov 24 2005 06:05 AM

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#26 LS1LX

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:38 AM

Super LOWS? There not available for torana, well not listed.
Can you get the P/N off the box or springs.

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#27 Guns n roses

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 04:12 PM

i was told they are available and thats what we got,just had to order them in,will let you know the number.cheers

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#28 LS1LX

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 04:28 PM

if you can get the part number would be great, I have the catalogue here so we can see what they are.

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#29 _SSHatch_

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 01:24 PM

Another easy way to see what is available and whats not is to right-click here and "Save Target As...".
Its a link to the Lovells catalogue.
Interesting to note that there are not that many different springs for the Torana.
The Chev V8 Sport Low Springs are actually the same springs listed for Standard Height Heavy Duty V8

And the BA Falcon Sedan Sport Lows are in actual fact the Standard Height Heavy Duty Rear springs for a Torana. (Just a little fact we came across when fitting new suspension to my BA!! Didn't that make the parts boys stop and look when Holden springs were supplied to fit to a Falcon!! :huh:

For those of you that dont know, I actually work at a Ford Dealership :spoton:

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#30 _the gts_

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 11:27 PM

you can actually cut the front springs on a torana but it MUST be the bottom of the spring where the cross section is still round. The bit that goes into the lower control arm.
The spacers you are talking about are only fitted from the factory in air conditioned models so you can safely take them out.

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#31 _the gts_

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 11:36 PM

oh yea if you cut the springs make sure you do it with a hacksaw not an oxy or grinder as the head will change the molecular structure of the steel

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#32 LS1LX

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 07:00 AM

gts what spacers are you talking about?

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#33 _ToranaGuy_

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 12:15 AM

Very interesting about the BA springs are torana springs, or more to the point the same springs!

Means there might be a few more choices out there for springs if ppl read thru the parts catalogues!

About cutting the springs, it's not that great of an idea, not to mention illegal IIRC.

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#34 _brett_32i_

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 09:31 AM

i hope i havent double posted this (i could of sworn i posted this last night here!!)

but anyways,
could someone take a measure from a level surface to the bottom of their front crossmember.

mine is currently at 190mm, and i reckon it needs to go down 'bout 50mm to get the guards sitting right.
now my sump hangs down about 25mm lower than the xmember.

wondering if the heiht will be ok?

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#35 LS1LX

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:06 AM

Got it pretty much at the level I want.
Front is 100% level but the rear is 5mm higher on the passenger side? What gives every nut and bolt and replaceable part on the car is brand new. Backed off all the suspension last night and will let it settle for a few days and see.

brett what engine do you have that has the sump hanging low? LS1?

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#36 Heath

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:21 AM

brett what engine do you have that has the sump hanging low? LS1?

RB30 in a UC sedan

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#37 _Loki_

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 02:10 PM

i hope i havent double posted this (i could of sworn i posted this last night here!!)

but anyways,
could someone take a measure from a level surface to the bottom of their front crossmember.

mine is currently at 190mm, and i reckon it needs to go down 'bout 50mm to get the guards sitting right.
now my sump hangs down about 25mm lower than the xmember.

wondering if the heiht will be ok?

190 [measurement of your x-member you said] - 25 [sump sits 25mm lower] = 165mm (assuming that's the lowest point the car - your sump)

So, 165 - 50 [how much lower you want to go] = 115mm.
Legal in QLD (100mm is lowest at any point).

Seems like an incredibly low sump :blink:

Usually extractors/exhaust are the lowest point and first to nail you for being too low.

The old coke can trick - if you can drive over a coke can/slide one around underneath, you're pretty much in the clear.

I dont have a coke can here to measure exactly but it should be about 100mm tall.

My LH sits stupidly low, it doesn't look it because it's rolling on 13' stock rims and that keeps the police off my back.

Makes even the smallest of speedbumps seem like mount everest

Edited by Loki, 24 March 2006 - 02:12 PM.

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#38 _the gts_

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 06:50 PM

gts what spacers are you talking about?

they are spacers originally for air conditioned models 6mm thick made out of urethane. I bought them from WA suspensions, a lovells dealer.

byu the way cutting the front springs on a torana is not illegal in WA as long as its done properly.
the reason for that is because the wire at one end of the spring (the bottom that goes into the lower control arm) still has full diameter cross section and is not flattened like the top.

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#39 _brett_32i_

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 08:37 PM

brett what engine do you have that has the sump hanging low? LS1?
RB30 in a UC sedan

yeah, it was above xmember, but i cut it up again to add an extra ~2 litres. now 25mm below.

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#40 micklx

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 09:56 AM

A few years ago I bought some Commodore springs from pedders. they asked what diameter wheels did I have, and what measurement did I want from the top edge of the rim to the lip of the guard. I worked out what I wanted and they supplied springs that were within 5mm. not sure if anyone does this for Toranas but it sure took the guesswork out of it.

A lot of people tell you not to cut springs, has anyone ever actually experienced one breaking after being cut? I haven't.

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#41 _brett_32i_

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:57 PM

well, i lowered mine, by about 4". i think its about an inch too low.
i guess its off to pedders for a new set...

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#42 _ToranaGuy_

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 11:39 PM

well, i lowered mine, by about 4". i think its about an inch too low.
i guess its off to pedders for a new set...

It looks like it's sitting nicly in the cardomain pics, but the car isn't at kerb weight, so maybe it would be a tad low...

How low's the subframe measure?

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#43 _Sammy_

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 02:02 PM

I just bought King Springs for my hatch not sure if they are lows or super lows and i think it looks mean although the rear tyres need to be 50's.

I have my car sitting at fairly similar height by the looks of it, i used lovells springs all round in my car but i am very happy with the result, as it is the exhaust and swaybar sometimes scrape, wouldn't want it lower!

this is with a 202 in the engine bay and V8 springs i believe they were.
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looking at this pic, maybe another half inch in the rear but that would be it i reckon.

actually i don't think the rear was much lower than stock (probably stock sagged though) because the height in the rear hasn't changed much, the rear springs are a hell of alot stiffer than stock though for sure!

Edited by Sammy, 30 March 2006 - 02:04 PM.

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#44 _brett_32i_

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:53 PM

car domain was before i lowered it. x member was at 190mm.
i wanted it down about 50mm, turns out that springs werent seated properly up in x member, so 50mm turned into 100!!!.

now, from centre of rim to bottom edge of guard is 290mm.

if anyone wants them, im happy to swap....

although, mine kinda looks the same height as sammy's?

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#45 _brett_32i_

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:03 PM

posted a new pic on cardomain, down the bottom of page.
too low for me i think...

as mentioned above, 290mm from centre of rim to guard lip.
steering arms point slightly upward.

im interested in swappsies if anyone wants them. (they're yellow and shiny)

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#46 _ToranaGuy_

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:55 PM

posted a new pic on cardomain, down the bottom of page.
too low for me i think...

as mentioned above, 290mm from centre of rim to guard lip.
steering arms point slightly upward.

im interested in swappsies if anyone wants them. (they're yellow and shiny)

I dunno about too low man, it looks f*ken tough, but might be a hassel to drive on the street!

What's the tail light lenses from? They are not uc, are they commy? datsun? I'm curious. I always thought the UC's were begging for some custom rear light lenses.

With my 40mm lower pedders reds, 14x7 alloys with 195/60 14's on them, there was a lot of speedhumps that seemed like mount everest! I think i have my front end as low as i want it, dep on how it turn's out with 17's on the car eventually. I never got around to getting a new pair of springs to replace the sagged rear's. On the shopping list once i get a diff built.

Cheers

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#47 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 11:48 AM

posted a new pic on cardomain, down the bottom of page.
too low for me i think...

as mentioned above, 290mm from centre of rim to guard lip.
steering arms point slightly upward.

im interested in swappsies if anyone wants them. (they're yellow and shiny)

In theory, the steering arms should never be pointing up at normal ride height. Rip them out and raise the vehicle a bit.

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#48 _brett_32i_

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:15 PM

looking at torana's at both easternats and bob janes thing, lots of toranas (mainly flared) had the steering arms pointing upward?

i think i'll just wait till its on the road, and worry about it then if its a pain in the arse....

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#49 _TUFF_

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:06 PM

After a talk with a suspension place today the front springs i was sold are King Spring super lows 50mm lower than standard they are to low for my liking so i am going to go and buy 30mm lower than standard springs. I will be selling my front springs soon so if anyone wants them make an offer they have only been in the car for around 6 months.

Cheers

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