UC Spare wheel position in LX
#1
Posted 03 April 2006 - 03:46 PM
Has this been done before? Are there any issues this will create?
I'm thinking it may be a problem with the tow bar setup I am also planning.
Legal problems?; will they notice? if it looks nicely done will it matter if they notice?
I don't wanna have to get a Engineers cert for it or anything like that. So can it be done simply?
I was thinking of having the wheel hanging from underneath the car, but taking into account how low it will probably be, that isn't the best idea.
#2 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 03 April 2006 - 05:48 PM
From memory, I dont think it was easy to actually fit the spare wheel back in the right spot with the gas tank installed either.
Your spare doesnt need to be the same size as the others, though preferable, youd definitely have issues fitting a 14x8 for ground clearance as well as fitting it in the boot with a gas tank.
My advise would be to use a regular tyre for the spare. If its not the same circumference, dont want to fit to the rear for too long, or if not you can still get by, by putting a different size tyre on the front(it might pull either way but wont cause a lot of damage)....a bit of work if its the back thats flat.
People might quote what if you have to drive 400km with the car like that?. Id say you'd be crazy to keep going without getting the existing tyre fixed asap. I maybe just lucky but in over a million kms of driving Ive never had to change a flat of my own, so would rate having to have a spare exactly the same as the other tyres a very low priority. ( b4 too many respond......This is not the scenario as one of those speed limited space saving tyres)
#3
Posted 03 April 2006 - 06:54 PM
But if I can get the car the way i want it, it could be seriously low. lol
#4 _JBM_
Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:30 PM
James
Red = edit
Edited by JBM, 03 April 2006 - 07:35 PM.
#5
Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:38 PM
#6 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 04 April 2006 - 11:06 AM
However, I couldnt get any straight answers on whether this would affect the structural integrity of the car, and it would have been a lot of work!
Im sure you could find an engineer to sign it off as safe etc, but really only the engineers that put it all together would really know what role the metal in the boot floor plays.
#7
Posted 04 April 2006 - 12:46 PM
Had also thought about actually cutting the whole floor out between the chassis rails and welding it back in at the same height as to where the fuel tank would have been.
However, I couldnt get any straight answers on whether this would affect the structural integrity of the car, and it would have been a lot of work!
I have installed a tub from a Falcon wagon to install my 80ltr tank. I cut the section of floor out to fit the tub and dropped the tub a little by adding more 90deg angle iron. This runs right around the tub and I reckon it has increased the strenght, not weakened it.
#8 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 04 April 2006 - 01:53 PM
#9
Posted 05 April 2006 - 12:22 PM
...not really what I'm looking for.
Has anyone even welded in the UC section of floorpan into an LH/LX sedan before? Does anyone know of any issues with doing this, and would it be relatively easy for an inexperienced welder to execute?
I have my reasons for wanting this modification. And the LPG tank will only go behind the back seat; moving it is not an option. Thanks
#10
Posted 05 April 2006 - 01:16 PM
#11 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 05 April 2006 - 02:46 PM
#12
Posted 05 April 2006 - 04:58 PM
#13 _Flamenco_
Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:06 PM
#14 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:09 PM
#15
Posted 06 April 2006 - 05:51 AM
isn't the roadworthy bit for spare tyres that you can use a can of tyre inflator if you have no spare?
I've heard that these inflator cans can render yout tyre useless once used? Something about degrading the rubber or something.... can anyone shed light on this?
If these ^^^ are OK, I'll grab one for sure as I've got a 13in stockie for my spare and it has to sit behind my pass seat!
Edited by knoath, 06 April 2006 - 05:52 AM.
#16
Posted 06 April 2006 - 08:03 AM
Haven't you ever heard the story of you not passing a roadworthy with a bald spare tyre, but you can pass one without a spare tyre at all.
#17 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 07 April 2006 - 01:48 PM
#18 _Flamenco_
Posted 07 April 2006 - 03:15 PM
My point exactly! I think if you don't use a spare you need a can of tyre inflator though...As far as roadworthies are concerned, you don't even need a spare tyre!
Haven't you ever heard the story of you not passing a roadworthy with a bald spare tyre, but you can pass one without a spare tyre at all.
#19
Posted 07 April 2006 - 04:01 PM
#20 _CHOPPER_
Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:46 PM
No spare wheel is OK.
With devils question, as long as the good spare is the spare wheel well, technically, it's legal.
Cans of " Fix-a-flat".
If you're stuck in the middle of nowhere, use it. But make sure you have metal valve caps with a rubber seal inside them ( you should anyway ). The fix-a-flat stuff won't damage a tyre, but it turns an inner tube to bin material. The stuff also stinks like shit.
Obviosly, if you have to use fix-a-flat, get the tyre repaired properly at a tyre place asap, otherwise, unrepairable damage could result.
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