Ok, so I still haven't done this yet but hoping to do it soon.
Just got my new shed up and hoping to start getting some work done.
How should I supply the fuel to the engine?
Is it Ok to use the tank or should I put the fuel line into a jerry can and run it like that?
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 05:51 PM
Jerry can with fresh fuel is my trick when starting something that hasnt been run in ages.
Has worked several times before, i even drove my LH home with a 4lt mower tin cable tied under the bonnet.
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Has worked several times before, i even drove my LH home with a 4lt mower tin cable tied under the bonnet.
Cheers.
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Ok, so I still haven't done this yet but hoping to do it soon.
You said that 15 months ago.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:12 PM
hehehehehehe....shuddup Chopper you sound like my missus 
Jerry can it is then. Thanks Bomber.
The actual reason I haven't started it is cause the wife said I wasn't allowed to start it under the patio in case it burnt the house down.
That's as good an excuse as any I guess.
Jerry can it is then. Thanks Bomber.
The actual reason I haven't started it is cause the wife said I wasn't allowed to start it under the patio in case it burnt the house down.
That's as good an excuse as any I guess.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 02:09 PM
all i did to start my ute up that sat for 6 years (186) is, i changed the oil, put a fuel line into a fresh tin of petrol and took the plugs out and wound it over for 5 second bursts til the fuel appeared in the carby , this took about 4, 5 second cranks
i then put the plugs back in and i fired up first crank
, winding it over without the plugs in gave the oil pump a chance to spread a bit of the new fresh oil around as well as pump the fuel up
just remember that your carby WILL leak until the gaskets soak up the fuel
i then put the plugs back in and i fired up first crank
, winding it over without the plugs in gave the oil pump a chance to spread a bit of the new fresh oil around as well as pump the fuel upjust remember that your carby WILL leak until the gaskets soak up the fuel
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:42 PM
Thanks Dave, that sounds promising.
Did you take the plugs out to stop the engine firing or was there another reason too?
Did you take the plugs out to stop the engine firing or was there another reason too?
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Thanks Dave, that sounds promising.
Did you take the plugs out to stop the engine firing or was there another reason too?
the reason i took the plugs out is the engine winds over really quick with them out and it saves your battery a bit to so you don't drain it's power too quick
the main purpose of doing this is to get oil moving around, without oil pressure or oil splashed up in the bores your risking permanent engine damage, getting the fuel pumped up into the carby is a bonus
with the oil spread around engine and the fresh fuel pumped up in the carby, screw the plugs back in and she'll fire and run straight away
good luck with it and let us know how you go
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:39 PM
I see.
Will let you know how I go but don't hold you're breath waiting.
The poor old torrie seems to constantly get moved down the to do list.
Will let you know how I go but don't hold you're breath waiting.
The poor old torrie seems to constantly get moved down the to do list.
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:28 PM
Managed to sneak in 5 minutes with my beloved and got her jacked up so I can clean all the grass off of the underside.
Not the most exciting update but there you go.
Not the most exciting update but there you go.
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progress is progress, do a little each day and you'll be ready to fire it up in no time!!
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:30 PM
Took a power cable down the shed and plugged in a light.
Also moved some bits out of the engine bay so I can get in there.
Also told the wife that I'm getting it started this week
Also moved some bits out of the engine bay so I can get in there.
Also told the wife that I'm getting it started this week
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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:42 AM
Choppa you'll be happy to know I made some ACTUAL progress.
I've jacked her up and got rid of all of the grass, put the thermostat housing back on, removed all the spark plugs, drained the oil and filled up the water, after which I had to grab a bucket but hey, you can't expect everything to go perfect
So tomorrow I need to vaccuum the engine bay, take some stuff out of the drivers seat so I can get in, top up the oil, hit it with some WD40 and turn her over.
I'm really worried about it catching on fire, hence the grass removal and leaf removal via vacuum tomorrow.
My main concern now is that the immobiliser will work better than it is supposed to and not turn off.
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
The main purpose of doing this is to see whether then engine is worth keeping or not.
The car is going because frankly, most of it has rusted away, but I remember the engine being a bit of a beast.
I didn't realise at the time because it was the only red motor I had had anything to do with, but other motors seem so smooth compared to this one.
I'm hoping to whack up a video to get opinions on whether it has some potential or not.
I've jacked her up and got rid of all of the grass, put the thermostat housing back on, removed all the spark plugs, drained the oil and filled up the water, after which I had to grab a bucket but hey, you can't expect everything to go perfect
So tomorrow I need to vaccuum the engine bay, take some stuff out of the drivers seat so I can get in, top up the oil, hit it with some WD40 and turn her over.
I'm really worried about it catching on fire, hence the grass removal and leaf removal via vacuum tomorrow.
My main concern now is that the immobiliser will work better than it is supposed to and not turn off.
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
The main purpose of doing this is to see whether then engine is worth keeping or not.
The car is going because frankly, most of it has rusted away, but I remember the engine being a bit of a beast.
I didn't realise at the time because it was the only red motor I had had anything to do with, but other motors seem so smooth compared to this one.
I'm hoping to whack up a video to get opinions on whether it has some potential or not.
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is this a white uc i saw in gossie the other day?
on a lawn?
on a lawn?
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:01 PM
Sold the car and never got around to starting the motor.
Its ok cause I got my 202 started and I decided I won't need the 186 anyway
However, the 202 won't idle.
It just goes like the clappers from startup so I've only run it for a couple of seconds.
It has a 350 Holley on it and it seems to be set up correctly.
Could it be the Power valve stuck wide open causing the massive revs?
Its ok cause I got my 202 started and I decided I won't need the 186 anyway
However, the 202 won't idle.
It just goes like the clappers from startup so I've only run it for a couple of seconds.
It has a 350 Holley on it and it seems to be set up correctly.
Could it be the Power valve stuck wide open causing the massive revs?
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:28 PM
I wouldn't think so.Could it be the Power valve stuck wide open causing the massive revs?
I assume you've backed the idle screw right off?
If so, check the choke high idle screw on the other side of the carby (see pic)
Failing that, maybe the butterfy screws are loose or the butterflies aren't shutting off properly (miss-aligned)
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 11:04 PM
The butterflies are shut and idle is backed right off.
I might have to pull a standard carbie off another car and try that to make sure it is the carbie.
I'm pretty sure it will be.
Thanks for the pics Rob. Very helpful.
I might have to pull a standard carbie off another car and try that to make sure it is the carbie.
I'm pretty sure it will be.
Thanks for the pics Rob. Very helpful.
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down in mandurah atm
but i have a 350 holley at a mates i can lend you when i get back
sometimes it's not a straight swap on the old 202's
you sure it's not the throttle cable? or something simple like that?
but i have a 350 holley at a mates i can lend you when i get back
sometimes it's not a straight swap on the old 202's
you sure it's not the throttle cable? or something simple like that?
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:01 PM
I guess it could be the cable Al, I didn't get much of a chance to play with it, but it all looked fine.
The butterflies were closed when I looked but I didn't look while it was running because I didn't leave it running long enough.
Last thing I wanted to do was blow the thing up!
I'll have a crack with another carby and manifold and see how I go, but if it doesn't fit I might take you up on that offer Al.
It ran rough as guts at first, as you'd expect, but as soon as it warmed up a bit it revved its guts out....
Its quite exciting!!
The butterflies were closed when I looked but I didn't look while it was running because I didn't leave it running long enough.
Last thing I wanted to do was blow the thing up!
I'll have a crack with another carby and manifold and see how I go, but if it doesn't fit I might take you up on that offer Al.
It ran rough as guts at first, as you'd expect, but as soon as it warmed up a bit it revved its guts out....
Its quite exciting!!
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Could be an air leak somewhere.
My Torana would nearly stall constantly until it got warm then revved WAY too high. Found a blanking cap had fallen off a vac fitting on the manifold. Fitted a piece of tube with a ball bearing stuck in it- All good!
My Torana would nearly stall constantly until it got warm then revved WAY too high. Found a blanking cap had fallen off a vac fitting on the manifold. Fitted a piece of tube with a ball bearing stuck in it- All good!
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 02:12 AM
ha ha potta it's the old process of elemination
disconnect the throttle cable run it see if it changes
if no change check for vac leaks/loose hoses anywhere
check the choke etc etc
then start ripping and replacing shit
lot easier
and most of it has to be done if you replace anyway
is it missing at idle or just flat refusing to idle?
might pay to chuck some carby cleaner down it's guts in case some crud fell in there while it was been stored
disconnect the throttle cable run it see if it changes
if no change check for vac leaks/loose hoses anywhere
check the choke etc etc
then start ripping and replacing shit
lot easier
and most of it has to be done if you replace anyway
is it missing at idle or just flat refusing to idle?
might pay to chuck some carby cleaner down it's guts in case some crud fell in there while it was been stored
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:16 PM
It idles at about 10000 RPM. That's the problem.
I need to have a proper look at it.
I've been trying to get my other car ready to drive....almost there.....I'm excited!!
I need to have a proper look at it.
I've been trying to get my other car ready to drive....almost there.....I'm excited!!
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 03:19 PM
I don't wanna get that excited, its bad for your health.
RIP Big Kev.
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 01:39 AM
So been trying to get my 202 running properly.
It'll start, but runs at about 2000 rpm or more, then it increases and I turn it off.
It has a 12 port head with a 350 Holley and sounds good but I want it to idle a bit slower. :-)
Could it be the timing? I tried adjusting it without the motor running and I got some backfiring and flames out of the carbie and gave up.
Tried another carbie and it is the same.
If the timing is advanced could that make it idle really fast?
Comparing the dizzy position on my other motor it seems like it is about an eight of a turn further around in an anti-clockwise direction.
Is it worth experimenting with the timing?
Very happy with how it runs at high revs, no yucky noises and sounds like it has plenty of power, no obvious smoke either so if I can get it to idle I should be able to chuck it in my drivable car for some fun :-)
It'll start, but runs at about 2000 rpm or more, then it increases and I turn it off.
It has a 12 port head with a 350 Holley and sounds good but I want it to idle a bit slower. :-)
Could it be the timing? I tried adjusting it without the motor running and I got some backfiring and flames out of the carbie and gave up.
Tried another carbie and it is the same.
If the timing is advanced could that make it idle really fast?
Comparing the dizzy position on my other motor it seems like it is about an eight of a turn further around in an anti-clockwise direction.
Is it worth experimenting with the timing?
Very happy with how it runs at high revs, no yucky noises and sounds like it has plenty of power, no obvious smoke either so if I can get it to idle I should be able to chuck it in my drivable car for some fun :-)
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