hi all i have hit a dilema i will be planning to bang a rb into my lc and have hit a brick wall as to manual or auto box .
i do enjoy the manual over the auto but if i go with either it will need to be a strong box and i dont want to find out the hard way (changing boxes costantly)
i will be going for around 400 hp
after some research i have come with a few options:
1 r33 5 sp box (needs tunnel mods)
2 rb30 5 sp turbo box no mods (as far as tunnel is concerned )
3 trimatic or other auto beefed up
my main problem is with pros cons to fit either .
it will be a weekend worrior for powercruise and such so it will get some track duties
just want some opinions and experiences even if not related to this combo
cheers
2DR
manual v auto
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 07:30 PM
I'm sure you'll get a lot of replies to your topic and there'll be if-ing and but-ing and fors and againsts and all the other blah blah blah. 
Bottom line?
Real men drive manuals.
Bottom line?
Real men drive manuals.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 07:36 PM
Ortows are for sheilas so they can knit while they drive.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 07:52 PM
The R33 boxes are awesome
And yes, as above lol
And yes, as above lol
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 08:10 PM
Auto for drag racing. Cant say drag racers are not real men. Unless it's a female driver of course.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 08:11 PM
Then its unanimous, manuals rulez!
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 11:35 PM
I threatened to put an auto in the mrs car......she threatened to withdraw marital favours!
Manual for me also.
Manual for me also.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 11:47 PM
Auto for drag racing. Cant say drag racers are not real men. Unless it's a female driver of course.
Nah autos are crap - where is the skill in just putting you foot down and holding it there? Drag racing would be much more fun and driver skill would be a bigger part of it if everybody ran manuals. (Talking street cars here)
Now I know autos are quicker but thats not my point, nor am I saying it doesn't take skill to get a quick auto down the strip.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 11:51 PM
You see a Torana in a car park.
Flares, spoilers, scoops, stripes etc....
You think "Oooooh, nice car! I'll mosey on over and have a look!"
Yes! Nice and shiney and big fat wheels! Pure muscle!
Then........after you've looked at the important bits............you look inside the car.
And there it is, smack in the middle of the console, a DAMN T/BAR!
Instant 10 demerit points.
Even those megawotevaratshit shifters can't take the place of a chrome stick with a knob on top.
JMHO
Flares, spoilers, scoops, stripes etc....
You think "Oooooh, nice car! I'll mosey on over and have a look!"
Yes! Nice and shiney and big fat wheels! Pure muscle!
Then........after you've looked at the important bits............you look inside the car.
And there it is, smack in the middle of the console, a DAMN T/BAR!
Instant 10 demerit points.
Even those megawotevaratshit shifters can't take the place of a chrome stick with a knob on top.
JMHO
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Why not use a R33 auto? HALT! Don't start attacking me just yet, hear me out!
Think about how cheap the R33 auto's are. NOBODY wants them. You could probably buy one with the change that's fallen down the back of your rear seat. Surely there's someone out there that has beefed up these boxes? What about a manual valvebody in one so you can control what gear it's in- no 'can't find it, grind it' situations and less shock loading on the diff etc. when your ripping through the gears. You could also use something like a B&M shifter with a knob on top and a leather boot around it and people will think it's a manual. (Shhhh)
I've driven a R33 GTS4 with an auto and a bigger turbo (no idea at all what sort of power increase but it was a LOT more than standard) and although it was 'boring and no fun' like a manual it still 'got up and boogied'.
Let me just make this clear- I like auto's in big cars and manuals in small cars. All my cars are auto's- just happened to be that way, wasn't a conscious choice...
Ever been in a traffic jamb in a manual big car? Drives ME nuts anyway.
Think about how cheap the R33 auto's are. NOBODY wants them. You could probably buy one with the change that's fallen down the back of your rear seat. Surely there's someone out there that has beefed up these boxes? What about a manual valvebody in one so you can control what gear it's in- no 'can't find it, grind it' situations and less shock loading on the diff etc. when your ripping through the gears. You could also use something like a B&M shifter with a knob on top and a leather boot around it and people will think it's a manual. (Shhhh)
I've driven a R33 GTS4 with an auto and a bigger turbo (no idea at all what sort of power increase but it was a LOT more than standard) and although it was 'boring and no fun' like a manual it still 'got up and boogied'.
Let me just make this clear- I like auto's in big cars and manuals in small cars. All my cars are auto's- just happened to be that way, wasn't a conscious choice...
Ever been in a traffic jamb in a manual big car? Drives ME nuts anyway.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:30 AM
thanks for the replies guys i knew this would get the blood pumping .
like i said i do enjoy manuals as its all ive driven and i want this car to be fun so i will go with the manual r33 box , now to fined one thats not to expensive and sort the tunnel out
like i said i do enjoy manuals as its all ive driven and i want this car to be fun so i will go with the manual r33 box , now to fined one thats not to expensive and sort the tunnel out
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:42 AM
yeah autos are boring im planing on drag racing my torry a fair bit once i get it all back together but its still gonna be manual being auto makes it just like the statesman to drive
manual everything is more fun
manual everything is more fun
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 11:36 AM
Auto for best track times, manual for BEST all-round GRIN factor!!hi all i have hit a dilema i will be planning to bang a rb into my lc and have hit a brick wall as to manual or auto box .
i do enjoy the manual over the auto but if i go with either it will need to be a strong box and i dont want to find out the hard way (changing boxes costantly)
i will be going for around 400 hp
after some research i have come with a few options:
1 r33 5 sp box (needs tunnel mods)
2 rb30 5 sp turbo box no mods (as far as tunnel is concerned )
3 trimatic or other auto beefed up
my main problem is with pros cons to fit either .
it will be a weekend worrior for powercruise and such so it will get some track duties
just want some opinions and experiences even if not related to this combo
cheers
2DR
If i had coordination issues & had to have an auto
i would go a tricked up Trimatic.I've now got an R33 5 speed in my LJ, had to stretch the tunnel up a bit to reduce gearbox angle (had some tailshaft destruction issues, mainly due to Hardy spicer crap slip yokes
DO NOT USE, USE FACTORY IF AFTERMARKET BILLET UNIT NOT AVAILABLE), only other mod was new hole for the stick (about 5" further back, then shorten the hand brake lever). I did however grind some material off the gearbox around the starter hole (basically trimmed it back to the shape of the starter) to give some clearance. Haven't tried an RB30ET box (could find one when i was looking for under $1500, bout 7-8 years ago) so i bought a Supra 5 speed conversion kit from CRS. R33 replaced the Supra when the motor made 389rwhp & the clutch slipped (that's another story 
but sorted now) and my tuner was concerned about snapping the input shaft. RB30ET boxes are pretty old now & R33 boxes aren't much younger so if possible "drive before you buy". Got my R33 box from a wrecker, took 3.5 monthes to fit it (& chassis kit etc etc..) first start noisy box & only a 3 month warranty 
All sorted now (till the next thing head f*ck), got it tuned this week, 403rwhp
I had traction issues before!!! Haven't drive it yet, whoop ass Wednesday it is!!
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 12:16 PM
An old saying i remember from a few years ago,
Auto for racing
Manual for hoons(no offence)
I wanted a manual for my torana, but behind 650hp dont think so.
Now i have full manual valve body C4.
Auto for racing
Manual for hoons(no offence)
I wanted a manual for my torana, but behind 650hp dont think so.
Now i have full manual valve body C4.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:29 PM
Get some balls and throw a muncie behind it i did never looked back. jap boxes pfffffft.G
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:12 AM
The new Tremec Magnum is rated at 700 horses and 750 ft pounds of torque, so power is not a real problem and they are quite cheap for a new box.
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Is a 'Magnum' a T56?
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:35 AM
Yes, its similar to the 6060 they use in the HSV 427 but a little stronger, but its for the aftermarket. It has the shifter in the right spot and a manual speedo drive. You can buy from Jegs, Summit etc for $2795
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:08 PM
That sounds almost too good to be true! Do they have many bell-housings available etc yet?
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:44 PM
For a Chev a couple, for a Holden its Mal Wood or Dellow
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:44 PM
balls. i saw a 57 fairlane 500 today it must wiegh 3 tons has a 316 or 312 v8 and its a 3 speed column manual. big loud heavy and the gearbox is fine. i hate my auto, i regularly shift it into second to feel more manly BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Looks like I'm seriously outnumbered on this one!
I always have a ball driving a full manual auto with a decent hi-stall.
I always have a ball driving a full manual auto with a decent hi-stall.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:51 PM
^ then you haven't lived.... 
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