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#1 grumpy xu1

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:37 PM

Hi forum members i am posting this question for a friend who's computer has died. We would like to hear from & see photo's from anyone with a rather original Adelaide built 72 xu-1 for the correct masking of the beaver black out's that extend into the boot jam ( not on a 45 deg. angle .) Just above the taillights, also under the parcel shelf & the boot hinges for body colour or the black out treatment. & inside lower "door jam's " the measurement that the black pertruds in on top of the sill panel & finally the valance masking arround under headlight bezels ( ie blinker area ) Thank you in advance as i think this will recieve a good reply, Grumpy xu1



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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:46 PM

Hi Grumpy, got a 73 Adelaide build but cant help with the blackouts as mines
been resprayed a different colour & the masking is wrong so I'm interested
to know as well.
I've still got the silver on the parcel shelf & the red oxide & silver
overspray in the boot just below the rear window as well as around the door
openings.
I'll get a pic up tomorrow for ya.

Jono

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 01:33 AM

Hi Grumpy, got a 73 Adelaide build but cant help with the blackouts as mines
been resprayed a different colour & the masking is wrong so I'm interested
to know as well.
I've still got the silver on the parcel shelf & the red oxide & silver
overspray in the boot just below the rear window as well as around the door
openings.
I'll get a pic up tomorrow for ya.

Jono



Ta Jono would be much appreciated i'll try & check when i come home from work tommorow, Grumpy

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 07:41 AM

hi grumpy,
My dad has a couple of 73 xu1 unrestored if you want a photo of the black outs IE. boot rear 1/4 front valiance.
i asked my dad and he said its OK, if you need them let me know.
Regards Jesse,

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 02:42 PM

I'd be interested too Jesse.

Bit hard to make out, looks like primer grey but its body
colour just that its matt looking. Looks like the vertical
bit under the boot seal lip copped body colour as well as
the hinges at the same level in the open position.
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Got me curious now to see if the original blackouts are under
the paint on my car as they seemed to have just sprayed over
the silver. If I get time I'll rub thru the top layer & see
whats there.

J

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:58 PM

hi grumpy,
My dad has a couple of 73 xu1 unrestored if you want a photo of the black outs IE. boot rear 1/4 front valiance.
i asked my dad and he said its OK, if you need them let me know.
Regards Jesse,



Hi Jesse, mate that would be much appreciated if you & your dad would be so helpfull i'm allways keen to see good photo's of toranas in particular xu-1's. Any photo you think is helpfull or just looks good send it in mate. Wow a couple of xu-1's & a a9x how cools hanging out with your dad mate, reminds me of hanging out with my dad, brother & the boys enjoy these memories jesse you will treasure them for many years mate, Grumpy

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 12:25 AM

I'd be interested too Jesse.

Bit hard to make out, looks like primer grey but its body
colour just that its matt looking. Looks like the vertical
bit under the boot seal lip copped body colour as well as
the hinges at the same level in the open position.
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Got me curious now to see if the original blackouts are under
the paint on my car as they seemed to have just sprayed over
the silver. If I get time I'll rub thru the top layer & see
whats there.

J

Hi Sable thanks for pics mate good to see a guy who will admitt his car's been repainted & is "possibly wrong" i can say i've been to a few torana functions & been told by owners whose "original untouched" car complete with nibs in the paint humity blisters miss matched peel paterns & blatenly f@#ken obvious different colour gaurds ect. it was a old guys un molested gem WTF ??? why lie i say! yep mine was quite complete & repainted wrongly probably by a spray painter who painted all the xu-1's for the local GM Dealer you know the type ! but luckily between mine & my friend's we can pick up a lot of the original finishes. " My advice only "mate dont strip your car of paint ect. until you have made yourself up a log ie floor colour, booster, brakes, gearbox ect. ect. That way you know you ARE RESTORING! this car not assuming or speculating on a mass produced little hottie & That my fiend is what xu1 pashion is about be proud of YOUR piece history. You will never regret the extra few months research & attention to detail. Good luck with your resto mate. P.S. i did not mean to offend any member or spray painter with any of these statements but we've all heard them before, Grumpy

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:14 AM

Hey Grumpy,
i am building a shed with my dad today, so i can take photos later to day, i should be able to put them up tonight, sorry for the wait,
i hope it helps you,
Regards Jesse,

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 07:44 PM

Hi guys,
Sorry for putting the pictures up late, i have just been really busy !
here are the pictures of my dads unrestored 73,
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Regards Jesse,
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 07:47 PM

sill is same as brisbane cars..nice colour aldo....are the black outs around the tail lights the same at both plants???

Edited by meanmachine72, 19 March 2010 - 07:51 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 07:50 PM

MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm Sunburst would love to see a full picture of it. :spoton:

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:11 PM

sill is same as brisbane cars..nice colour aldo....are the black outs around the tail lights the same at both plants???



Hi,
This is my dads one owner 5/73 GTR XU1, it is 100 % geunine
my dad isnt home right now, when he gets home i can ask him about brisbane and adelaide black outs, but im pretty sure there the same as we have had many XU1`s, i wouldnt have noticed the differents of the cars as i try and find out the differents, we have a bisband XU1 here i could check it tomorrow for you,
Regards Jesse,

MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm Sunburst would love to see a full picture of it. Posted Image



hi,
i will ask my dad if i can put up a picture of the full car when he gets home, but i cant see why not, should be up by tomorrow or sunday,
This car still has the orginal 5 nibbles rims with the orginal guardian tyres, dress rims, centre caps and nuts they have been put aside,
Dad put the sprint masters 2 weeks ago because we were going to take the car to hangrock, but we couldnt get club rego quick enough.
i hope these photos black outs are what yous asked for,
Thanks
Regards Jesse

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:15 PM

thanks jesse, your dads got nice cars and likes to share....
cheers johnno

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:20 PM

Thanks Jesse
Pics will be appreciated of Aldo's sunburst by me anyway.You may find that there is a differents between Brisbane and Adelaide in the boot jam.
I took notice of this 2 years ago at Torana fest and have pics of them somewhere.The ones I have are non restored cars.
Will try and post the areas I'm talking about by tomorrow night,thats if someone dosn't beat me to it.
cheers Dane

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 03:14 PM

Heres some pics the first is an unrestored 72 Brisbane built
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 03:23 PM

thanks dane...mine is wrong going by those pics....

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:29 PM


sill is same as brisbane cars..nice colour aldo....are the black outs around the tail lights the same at both plants???



Hi,
This is my dads one owner 5/73 GTR XU1, it is 100 % geunine
my dad isnt home right now, when he gets home i can ask him about brisbane and adelaide black outs, but im pretty sure there the same as we have had many XU1`s, i wouldnt have noticed the differents of the cars as i try and find out the differents, we have a bisband XU1 here i could check it tomorrow for you,
Regards Jesse,

MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm Sunburst would love to see a full picture of it. Posted Image



hi,
i will ask my dad if i can put up a picture of the full car when he gets home, but i cant see why not, should be up by tomorrow or sunday,
This car still has the orginal 5 nibbles rims with the orginal guardian tyres, dress rims, centre caps and nuts they have been put aside,
Dad put the sprint masters 2 weeks ago because we were going to take the car to hangrock, but we couldnt get club rego quick enough.
i hope these photos black outs are what yous asked for,
Thanks
Regards Jesse

Hey thanks Jesse, yeah actually id be interested in the Brisbane masking for my car mate. don't see many untouched vehicles like that any more, any photos much appreciated thank you, Grumpy

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 02:01 PM

Does anyone know whether these 73 Adelaide blackouts are the same as a May 72 Adelaide car?



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Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:49 PM

Hi bruceno pm me i will give you the information and correct paint codes for 1972

cheers anthony 

Does anyone know whether these 73 Adelaide blackouts are the same as a May 72 Adelaide car?



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Posted 19 September 2013 - 04:59 PM

Anthony,

 

PM sent

 

Thanks

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:12 PM

Bruce,

 

Warrigal Black  568 - 6459 is the correct paint colour for the 1972 LJ GTR & GTR XU1 decorative body paintouts.

 

The only black painted exterior part that wasn't painted Warrigal Black was the door glass division channel (1/4 window channel).

The division channel was painted with Medium Gloss Black 578 - 04149.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:03 AM

Dave,1972 is 578-4149,striping area rocker,frontpanel,frontbumper valance,rear valance,door frame upper,doorpillar upper outer,rear quarter pillar & roof rail,rear quarter lower ,front felder lower,door lower,rear panel(between deck lid&lower valance all the same as HQ SS striping. 1973 all areas are warrigal black 568-6459

cheers anthony



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:39 PM

Thanks guys,

 

Problem is there is no record of how to mix these older colours as they were factory colors out of the can (so I am told).

 

Is 578-4149 the correct color (there has been conflicting information in other threads as well) and is there still a paint mix code for it anywhere? My painter can't locate any of these blacks and believes they were straight out of the can from the info in his books

 

The main issue is the gloss level - I was thinking of using MIdnight Black (the color that superseded Tuxedo Black which superseded Warrigal BLack) but if the '72 was semi gloss this wouldn't be right either.

 

Anthony, do have a clearer pic of the front valance area particularly the masking under bumper on the front guards?

 

Any advice greatly appreciated - my painter has exhausted his resources/books to obyain a correct paint mix!

 

Bruce



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

bruce,hope it helps? just adelaide


Edited by crabba67, 21 September 2013 - 04:17 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:29 PM

bruce, you can buy all holden blacks 299-9187,599-5285,399-9394,568-6459,578-4149 and 222-10687 for lc and lj from preston motors campbellfield vic. ps 578- 4149 is the dearest !

cheers anthony






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