Im not sure if any members have done this conversion,a 1UZ-fe lexus V8 into a Torana..i know..i know..But the more i read up on these V8 ,iv come to like the idea..Why..?
Its a V8..
4cam 4 valves
all alloy thus light weight around 80kg lighter than ironblock..lighter upfront then.
Seems cheap,seen them around 1000-2000 bux(depends on K's and what comes with..
allmost 300 hp stock..not much to get it to 400-500 Hp.
Well thats just a few positives..im sure there's negatives..but looks like a very good motor..Question is...Have any members done the conversion?
Lexus 1uz-fe V8 in torana.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:44 PM
Not that I've seen. But they are bloody good motors and if I had the money I'd be tempted.
All I can think of is the usual issues like mounting it, finding a bellhousing/tailshaft suitable and the obvious one... will it fit in the damn engine bay without block-huggers or at all!
All I can think of is the usual issues like mounting it, finding a bellhousing/tailshaft suitable and the obvious one... will it fit in the damn engine bay without block-huggers or at all!
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:49 PM
One of my customers is currently fitting one to his HQ Monaro
Its abit of a tight squeeze
He has had to make custom sump and exhaust manifolds (to suit the 2 GT28's)
CRS supplied the bellhousing kit to suit the Supra box and I have just supplied the Xtreme clutch and had the flywheel modded to suit
Should be a reasonable conversion when done
As for putting one in a Torana....... should be similar to what Chaotic is doing with the VH41 Nissan engine in another thread
Its abit of a tight squeeze
He has had to make custom sump and exhaust manifolds (to suit the 2 GT28's)
CRS supplied the bellhousing kit to suit the Supra box and I have just supplied the Xtreme clutch and had the flywheel modded to suit
Should be a reasonable conversion when done
As for putting one in a Torana....... should be similar to what Chaotic is doing with the VH41 Nissan engine in another thread
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:09 PM
Chaotic's biggest issue looks like the sump. Does the Toyota motor have an alloy sump?
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:08 PM
The I-UZ-FE has a 2 piece sump, some might even be 3 piece.
There nothing flash, just a cheap to buy engine, they make around 190kw but thats at redline, there not very Torquey at all.
Very wide engine, a guy on here has a site showing his conversion, looks like there is more room for a Big Block Chev, not joking.
But there cheap to buy so whats a few $$ here and there to make it fit?
Its EFI, 4 cams, super smooth, reliable and parts are cheap and easy to obtain.
I wouldnt say 500hp is easy to get out of one of these little 4L puffers in NA estate, most are turbo charged when there pumping the HP.
There nothing flash, just a cheap to buy engine, they make around 190kw but thats at redline, there not very Torquey at all.
Very wide engine, a guy on here has a site showing his conversion, looks like there is more room for a Big Block Chev, not joking.
But there cheap to buy so whats a few $$ here and there to make it fit?
Its EFI, 4 cams, super smooth, reliable and parts are cheap and easy to obtain.
I wouldnt say 500hp is easy to get out of one of these little 4L puffers in NA estate, most are turbo charged when there pumping the HP.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:10 PM
Mainly alloy with a small tinplate pan that bolts on
The Monaro is getting an all stainless steel pan
The Monaro is getting an all stainless steel pan
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 06:34 AM
Further reserch tells me that u can get front,mid or rear sump which should be good for torana's,I had a look at one,does semms big looking (guess the 90 Dec V8)might be a tight fit.To get 400-500 HP,its the supercharging thats does it the cheapest.Seems the internals are good enough for that allready (400-600 HP) ,Forged crank and rods but not pistons,still pretty good for standard..man i would love cheap 500 HP..im on it..hehehhe
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 08:56 AM
heh heh. Maybe you can talk CRS into making some conversion kits 
Turboing one of those in a Torana is out of the question, Supercharging can't be too hard though. If it's low and wide then you might be able to fit it under the bonnet too!
Turboing one of those in a Torana is out of the question, Supercharging can't be too hard though. If it's low and wide then you might be able to fit it under the bonnet too!
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:12 PM
Requires quite extensive scalloping of the crossmember to get it in......and that is with a custom sump AFAIK.
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 01:12 PM
you should be able to pick up a 1uz for about $1250 from any import place.
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 02:53 PM
If your gonna do it i'd recommend getting a full front cut tho.
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Posted 21 April 2006 - 10:12 PM
1UZFE has been talked about and talked about, dont know of anyone thats actually done it in the torana though.
I have seen one in an EA Falcon.....tight fit intere.
Motor is roughy 700mm cubed so do some measureing.
I have seen one in an EA Falcon.....tight fit intere.
Motor is roughy 700mm cubed so do some measureing.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 03:05 PM
Thats it,i can t find one thats been done,lots of close ones,like in HQ,and Hilux..but not in Torri,
It begs the question though,Why bother if so hard..?Yet the lure of Quick 500 Hp
(Supercharged ) Off Standard internals is tempting.I recon getting some weight off the front end,50-100 kg is not out of the question,which will give improved balance ratio between front and back..?Still having to chop up the front too much doesn't sound too good..
It begs the question though,Why bother if so hard..?Yet the lure of Quick 500 Hp
(Supercharged ) Off Standard internals is tempting.I recon getting some weight off the front end,50-100 kg is not out of the question,which will give improved balance ratio between front and back..?Still having to chop up the front too much doesn't sound too good..
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 05:28 PM
drop me a email bango and Ill email some pics of the torana with the 1UZ engine in it.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 05:31 PM
post em up i'd be interested to see as well
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 06:18 PM
It's been done in an EH ute (see SM Mag 05)... It may take some work, but its definitly not out of the question...
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 01:38 PM
Hey bango, is that you I've seen wandering around Letreme...?
I am about to start on a 1UZ conversion into a UC. I picked up the car on Saturday (paid for it 9 months ago!) and its now in the workshop beside its new engine. I plan to get the motor sitting in place over the next couple of weeks and then sort the rest of the car (panel/paint, suspension,etc).
I have a 1UZ from a Celsior/LS400 and a choice of the 4 speed A340 that came with it or a 5 speed A350 if I can get the tiptronic controller to work with it. The rear sump version from the SC400 would have been the best starting point but I originally bought the motor for a VL... and then saw the light....
The motor is a 700mm cube, almost as wide across the heads as a BBC, and is a snug fit although it does clear all major components such as brake boosters, etc.
Engine mounts are easy. The exhaust is no more dificult than a SBC around the steering and there is a lot more room around the block/bell housing as the starter is in the V of the block between the heads and the oil filter is at the front.
The major problem with this swap is the sump. It can be built without cutting into the front crossmember but is a major project. The std 1UZ sump consists of an alloy girdle which provides some strength to the block with a tin pan to hold the oil. Even the SC400 tin pan is more of a mid/rear setup and won't clear.
I am going to remove the tin pan, dummy the motor in and see where I need to go from there. Pics to follow...
I have a contact in Aus who makes a basic kit for this (mounts, sump and headers) and will dig out his email address for you.
I am about to start on a 1UZ conversion into a UC. I picked up the car on Saturday (paid for it 9 months ago!) and its now in the workshop beside its new engine. I plan to get the motor sitting in place over the next couple of weeks and then sort the rest of the car (panel/paint, suspension,etc).
I have a 1UZ from a Celsior/LS400 and a choice of the 4 speed A340 that came with it or a 5 speed A350 if I can get the tiptronic controller to work with it. The rear sump version from the SC400 would have been the best starting point but I originally bought the motor for a VL... and then saw the light....
The motor is a 700mm cube, almost as wide across the heads as a BBC, and is a snug fit although it does clear all major components such as brake boosters, etc.
Engine mounts are easy. The exhaust is no more dificult than a SBC around the steering and there is a lot more room around the block/bell housing as the starter is in the V of the block between the heads and the oil filter is at the front.
The major problem with this swap is the sump. It can be built without cutting into the front crossmember but is a major project. The std 1UZ sump consists of an alloy girdle which provides some strength to the block with a tin pan to hold the oil. Even the SC400 tin pan is more of a mid/rear setup and won't clear.
I am going to remove the tin pan, dummy the motor in and see where I need to go from there. Pics to follow...
I have a contact in Aus who makes a basic kit for this (mounts, sump and headers) and will dig out his email address for you.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 07:27 PM
conceptss has one in his hatch.
One day i will do this conversion.
Try QUAD CAMS AUSTRALIA
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07 4661 4551, 0400 888 432
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he puts these in ac cobra's etc and can organise just about everthing for you if thats what you want??
MV Automatics Blackwood SA,Guys name is Michael...(08) 8370 0430,
A340-full race reco $2,600.00, 3200stall(max), 360rwkw capable
Will be watching your progress TOBES!! keep us all posted
One day i will do this conversion.
Try QUAD CAMS AUSTRALIA
Warwick, QLD
07 4661 4551, 0400 888 432
[email protected]
he puts these in ac cobra's etc and can organise just about everthing for you if thats what you want??
MV Automatics Blackwood SA,Guys name is Michael...(08) 8370 0430,
A340-full race reco $2,600.00, 3200stall(max), 360rwkw capable
Will be watching your progress TOBES!! keep us all posted
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:48 PM
Thats the guy I was thinking about...
Superb engineering and workmanship from what I have heard.
Had mounts, 7 litre alloy sumps and mandrel bend headers for sale.
Superb engineering and workmanship from what I have heard.
Had mounts, 7 litre alloy sumps and mandrel bend headers for sale.
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Good to hear TOBES,yep,thats me on Lextreme..definitely keep us posted,gonna be very interesting..
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:40 AM
i have seen a TA22 celica witth toyota v8 twin turbo, tight fit!
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 07:00 PM
There was a guy on here about 18months to 2 years back on the old forum who had carried out the conversion. He did it in about 2001, was tight, but looked really good, and he loved it. I dont think he's on this new forum though, but as far as having been done in a torry, then yes, at least a few times.
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Certainly hope I'm not standing on anyone's toes here but I saved the photo's from the old forum...
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:57 PM
looks like plenty of room to the rails?
sump looks a bitch though. should of cut the crossmember right through, lowered the donk a bit more, and then solid mount the crossmember back onto the motor.?? (sounds good in my head)
sump looks a bitch though. should of cut the crossmember right through, lowered the donk a bit more, and then solid mount the crossmember back onto the motor.?? (sounds good in my head)
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:39 AM
As posted above - i noticed on CarDomain.... BradsUC.... The pics above are exactly what you'll see....
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