Hey guys,
On the way back from soccer yesterday i got done doing 74 in a 60 zone, 3 points and $150. Im still on my P's due for my opens on the 28th may.
About 2 years ago i got done doing 112 in a 100 zone so i lost 1 point.
So that means ive lost my license?
But a few people have told me that if you lose any points on a P license you get them back after a year. If so im safe.. ill still have 1 left. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I found this:
"If four or more demerit points are recorded against your traffic history in a one year period while you are holding a Queensland learner or provisional licence, you will be sent an Accumulation of demerit points-notice to choose."
Taken from:
http://www.transport...r_demeritpoints
So i think i may be ok? Does anyone know for sure?
Andrew
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, Apr 23 2006 12:38 PM
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 01:12 PM
Ask your local DMV (rego officer front desk) etc whatever your equivalent is in Qld.
The girls / guys on the enquiry counter are generally not ogres and only to willing to help. This way you will not be subject to what people think, you WILL have the facts
Cheers
Herne
The girls / guys on the enquiry counter are generally not ogres and only to willing to help. This way you will not be subject to what people think, you WILL have the facts
Cheers
Herne
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 01:37 PM
Looks like you are inviting every Bush Lawyer to give an opinion.
The QLD Transport site makes it very clear just what the process is.
The rules say:
If four or more demerit points are recorded against your traffic history in a one year period
It is obvious that a rolling 12 months condition applies. Any points lost prior to 12 months from any assessment date are not included in the four or more limit. Or only the points lost during the 12 months from your most recent loss count.
It is not so much an issue of getting them back as it is they no longer figure in any assessment.
If you have just lost 3 points you have no spare ones left. The one you think you have is one too many as it will put you on the limit of four for which the big decision is required. So you are in the position of self imposed good behaviour while driving for one year.
I do hope you are SAFE and can remain so. Slower speeds make it even safer.
The QLD Transport site makes it very clear just what the process is.
The rules say:
If four or more demerit points are recorded against your traffic history in a one year period
It is obvious that a rolling 12 months condition applies. Any points lost prior to 12 months from any assessment date are not included in the four or more limit. Or only the points lost during the 12 months from your most recent loss count.
It is not so much an issue of getting them back as it is they no longer figure in any assessment.
If you have just lost 3 points you have no spare ones left. The one you think you have is one too many as it will put you on the limit of four for which the big decision is required. So you are in the position of self imposed good behaviour while driving for one year.
I do hope you are SAFE and can remain so. Slower speeds make it even safer.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:23 PM
Well i get my opens on the 28th of may. So does that mean ill have 12 points, or will i go straight to 9?
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:32 PM
Now here is where an old dog does his tricks. (Whoelse do you know who lost 124 points in a year? NSW license , booked in Qld)
Not sure with Ps A1, BUT!! I have your solution.
DO NOT! I repeat! DO NOT PAY THE FINE until after the 28th May, then you will have your full license and nine points left. Little known fact that you do not lose the points until the bill is paid. Done it twice to keep my license. I think it is 28 days then they give you a reminder notice and 7 days...that should get you over the line.
Rory
Not sure with Ps A1, BUT!! I have your solution.
DO NOT! I repeat! DO NOT PAY THE FINE until after the 28th May, then you will have your full license and nine points left. Little known fact that you do not lose the points until the bill is paid. Done it twice to keep my license. I think it is 28 days then they give you a reminder notice and 7 days...that should get you over the line.
Rory
Edited by rorym, 23 April 2006 - 02:47 PM.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:49 PM
Forgot to add you can just ring up to see where you stand with your current points. If you have one left and are safe, pay it now and start with a full 12 from 28th May.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 06:41 PM
Mein tink a critical point may be being missed.
Points lost are points lost regardless of licence category. The category of licence means only different numbers are used before penalties are imposed.
Points lost on a P licence will still count in any 12 month period, regardless of the category held at the time of accounting.
This simply follows the rules given as points lost with an interstate licence are still recorded against the licence holder. The individual State rules apply when assessing penalty limits.
Points lost are points lost regardless of licence category. The category of licence means only different numbers are used before penalties are imposed.
Points lost on a P licence will still count in any 12 month period, regardless of the category held at the time of accounting.
This simply follows the rules given as points lost with an interstate licence are still recorded against the licence holder. The individual State rules apply when assessing penalty limits.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 10:51 PM
Please explain.Now here is where an old dog does his tricks. (Whoelse do you know who lost 124 points in a year? NSW license , booked in Qld)
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:09 PM
124 points in a year? Surely you must be joking. 
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:16 PM
I was thinking, surely it must be a typo.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:20 PM
DragLC,
The rolling 12 months to use 4 points applies as stated above.
When you go to your opens, it will be on full 12 points - seen heapps of guys go through it.
Mr little bro got done 6 points in my LC Torana 2 weeks before he got his opens - he just had to go chat to the traffic super who promptly gave him his licence with full 12 points because he was so close to getting them anyway.
Rory, Qld changed that loophole about 3 years ago - the points now go from the date of offence, not when you pay it. (or so they tell me anyway)
The interstate thing will still get you off the hook if you are sited a ticket by an officer and pay it before overdue but the cameras still get you interstate.
M@
The rolling 12 months to use 4 points applies as stated above.
When you go to your opens, it will be on full 12 points - seen heapps of guys go through it.
Mr little bro got done 6 points in my LC Torana 2 weeks before he got his opens - he just had to go chat to the traffic super who promptly gave him his licence with full 12 points because he was so close to getting them anyway.
Rory, Qld changed that loophole about 3 years ago - the points now go from the date of offence, not when you pay it. (or so they tell me anyway)
The interstate thing will still get you off the hook if you are sited a ticket by an officer and pay it before overdue but the cameras still get you interstate.
M@
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 02:29 AM
As stated above - you will have full 12 point licence on opens regardless of what happens now.
And you lose points at the time/date of the offence, not when you pay it (i live in qld and ex-gf's bro is a copper)...
Keith
And you lose points at the time/date of the offence, not when you pay it (i live in qld and ex-gf's bro is a copper)...
Keith
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 06:39 AM
If they havent sent you a loss of licence or accumulation of demerit points form I wouldnt worry about it.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:23 AM
Just hope you missed out on the double points we've got here for easter and anzac weekends this year in QLD.
If you do happen to lose your licence its easy to get it back in court anyway, all you need is a letter from your employer stating you will lose income without your licence and they will nearly always give your licence back. (provided you are only caught speeding and no reckless/dangerous driving aswel.)
If you do happen to lose your licence its easy to get it back in court anyway, all you need is a letter from your employer stating you will lose income without your licence and they will nearly always give your licence back. (provided you are only caught speeding and no reckless/dangerous driving aswel.)
Edited by Orange SS, 24 April 2006 - 08:25 AM.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:58 AM
Not a typo..In 1980 I moved to Qld. I had a NSW, VIC, and ACT license. A very common thing at the time for truckies who had one for every state!. In those days you just paid the fine and because your license was from another state, never lost any points because they never talked to each other. The Qld fines at the time were like$15, $25, and $35 for <15k, 15-30k, over 30k so it was nothing.. Pretty easy to rack up huge points until eventually you get a knock on the door in your NSW address saying you cannot ride/drive in Qld anymore.
Then they stuffed it up by hooking up computers and making me select only one license.
Ahh! The good ole days!!
R
Then they stuffed it up by hooking up computers and making me select only one license.
Ahh! The good ole days!!
R
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