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#1 blake

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:23 PM

whats the best cam people have used on the street with there 186 / 202, im lookin for a big lumpy cam for my 186, but dont want it too big for the street as i want to be able to drive comfortably. something like an 'xu1'spec cam from the lc, but there fairly basic, and i want it to be loud and have heeps of lump. so please share what you have, or have had from experience.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:43 PM

http://www.tighecams.com.au/cars.htm

the 150A and 392C are both magic camshafts, nice lump, good power but the 150A isnt that much of a pig.



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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:01 PM

Cheers for that.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

For good street driving try a 186S cam and when you want it to sound lumpy just pull the choke out abit.Posted Image

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 10:24 PM

i have a camtec hydraulic 248/248 336 336 i love it. needs a 3500 converter to idle in gear though

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:08 AM

A wade 1147CB cam is what I had in my 202...warm street application, it was driven daily, great street cam IMO, great idle and note, and drivability aint bad too.

INT 224 [email protected]" 0.4545" Valve lift
EX 232 [email protected]" 0.474" Valve lift

sounds like this....
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really most red 6's with a big cam sound horn :D....happy I still get to hear mine sing in Briana's LJ though

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 01:22 AM

hey mate, thought i'd chime in here too.
i bought one of these for my 202.
http://cgi.ebay.com....#ht_1126wt_1137

went for a stage 2 and also got straight cut gears too.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:48 PM

thanks to people who shared there thoughts. im thinking of going with a camtech, they seem to have there act together with there technology, and customer support. who else has had experience with camtech cams, or the cheap cams from ebay?

cheers Blake

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 08:49 PM

I have a custom mechanical cam in my 202.

Lobe sep 107
@ 0.050 Duration Int 246 Exh 254
Valve lift Int 506 Exh 497

Very lumpy!!!

I have to run a 3800 stall. Revs to 7000rpm all day.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 09:52 PM

I run a Crow 33/73 (part no. 667 I think) in my street driven 202 LH.
It's ok, idles well with a bit of a lump in it, performance is notably better than stock, you can tell when it "comes on cam" and drivability is fine with a 5 speed box.
In all honesty, I'd prefer a bigger one. I reckon a 40/80 would be a good thing, if not slightly bigger again.
Just make sure your bottom end will handle at least 7000rpm.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 04:04 AM

Stage 5 Heatseeker :) biggest hydraulic one they made for holden 6. solid went to stage 6

was a bit of a pig to drive

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 11:08 AM

Stage 5 Heatseeker Posted Image biggest hydraulic one they made for holden 6. solid went to stage 6

was a bit of a pig to drive



Incorrect as Heatseeker do the HS60 hydraulic still and it is a stage 6 plus Peter still grinds custom cams to suit what ever info you give him.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:22 PM

can someone tell me how the crow cams go as well. pm me if needed?

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:46 PM

can someone tell me how the crow cams go as well. pm me if needed?



i'd stay away for a performance application. ive seen them drop lobes and lifters not rotating

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:33 PM

I had a cam from Redlands Engine reconditioners years ago ( now closed), dunno the lobe sizes or separation, but it was a R 94, a modified copy of a Crow. It was developed for limited six sprint speedway. Torque range was 3200-7800, although I only maxed it at 6800 occasionally. 9 port benched to 320hp, triple 175's, 7/16 studs, rollers, 221 crank, zero deck height. It idled at 550 & sounded awesome through open pipes. It was a manual & had great power from idle...wish I had never parted with it



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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:26 PM

Look up Waggot Cams or engineering.
Thinking they are somewhere on the NSW north coast now.
There old 30/70 cam was the ducks guts for daily drivers.
Reckon they forgotten more about red 6s than most these days know.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:33 PM

sorry to jack the thread but while where on the subject anyone no the best cam for 186/stroker 221 crank, As far as i kno there not good for high revs so anything revn over 6 is no good. Place i spoke to about puttin motor back together recommended crow xu1 cam but ive heard a few bad things about them plus wots the point of having a cam in there thats needs to rev more than me motor can handle??

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:00 PM

I will second waggots for street cams.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

you could put a boat cam in it that would pull hard as down low for the 221 stroker the cam would prob run out at 5000 tho but should still go good

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:35 PM

sorry to jack the thread but while where on the subject anyone no the best cam for 186/stroker 221 crank, As far as i kno there not good for high revs so anything revn over 6 is no good. Place i spoke to about puttin motor back together recommended crow xu1 cam but ive heard a few bad things about them plus wots the point of having a cam in there thats needs to rev more than me motor can handle??



more cubes will put the rev range lower on the stroker than it would on a 202 or 186.
so the rpm range will be lower than all the listings for cams that are for a 202.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:04 AM

Which ever cam manufacturer that you decide on, talk to them explain what you want from the vehicle(be honest)& what the engine specs are. Don't get a particular cam because someone else say's it was ok for them, because they may have eg. 12:1 compression & you may have 9.5, so the engine may be a dog to drive. Personally I never had much luck with Crow(they seem to pick the cam from the book, not from my info)Bert Jones,Watson cams, COME & Camtech(talk to Malcolm) I've had great success with.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:03 PM

Hi Trevor

My experience with Strokers is limited But I do know a bit about the 235 version. It is true they don�t like big revs. 5800 would the limit. But what they lack in high rpm HP they make up with in the way of torque. Crow aren�t that bad. A bad batch of cores can haunt any cam manufacturer. I would pick a cam with 6000rpm limit in mind. You also want a fairly wide lobe separation. This spreads the power band wide to make use of the torque offered by the extra cubes. I�d use a crow 35667 cam. We have installed this cam in a 186 daily driver with one of our new SIM002 EFI Intakes. It idles well and makes power between 2500-6000. The 100 lobe separation and the high lift both help improve the cylinder filling. Cylinder filling in emphasised with the extra cubes you have. A 72 XU1 cam only has a rev range of 2500-5800, but because it relies on duration rather than lift to fill the cylinders I feel the 35667 will offer better performance in your application. I hope this info helps




this is info i got from a fella who makes main stud girdles, anyone no of a really really good holden 6 engine builder in adelaide?




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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:23 PM

If you would like to change the colour of you post please we may be able to read it???

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:30 PM

sorry fella not sure why that happened mate

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:45 PM

^^^^gremlins???




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