Supra 5 speed short throw shifters
#1
Posted 09 August 2010 - 11:41 PM
Is it possible to modify the standard shifter, or are there aftermarket ones available?
Any info would be great.
As an example, I found this on Ebay, but it's to suit later model stuff by the looks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories
Cheers.
#2
Posted 09 August 2010 - 11:58 PM
Is it possible to modify the standard shifter, or are there aftermarket ones available?
Any info would be great.
Cheers.
In general, with any manual shifter, if you shorten the stick it shortens the throw but the shifter you have listed in the link is engineered differently to give more leverage to shorten the shift.
These were available on some high performance models AFAIK and there are a few aftermarket manufactures doing them, maybe try dellows or castle.
#3
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:34 AM
What you need to do is raise the pivot point of the shifter and lengthen the stick below the pivot point the same amount as you've raised it. Does that make sense?
When I put the V8 in my hilux I made a quick shift for the stock G52 gearbox. I cut 2 pieces of 10mm (I didn't have any 20mm plate, but 2 bits of 10mm works fine) alloy plate the same shape as where the shifter plate bolts to the gearbox, with a hole inside for the shifter to pass through, then cut, heated and welded 20mm into the stick below the pivot point, where the ball is at the base of the stick, effectively changing the ratio of the shifter. It's like a new car to drive now, and cost me about $10 for alloy and longer bolts. It was made even easider by the fact I could easily remove the stick from the mounting plate and get it away from the plastic bush in the pivot itself. Don't want to go melting that.
Hope that's of some help????
If you can't find an aftermarket solution, I can modify your existing shifter the same as I did the hilux one, if you can live without it for a week or so while it gets posted here and back.
Just an option anyway.
Edited by dirtbag, 10 August 2010 - 12:35 AM.
#4
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:39 AM
http://www.trademe.c...n-308247701.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com....W-/260645117112
Not cheap but not bad considering Toyota's prices for new bushes which come with. It is a proper short shifter as the pivot point has been altered and I'm quite happy with it, vast improvement on the standard shifter. And the icing on the cake is it was developed by a guy who runs a Supra box in his Targa Torana
#5
Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:56 AM
dirtbag - You're an ideas man! Yes, I totally understand what you're saying, and cheers for the offer to modify one for me.
But now that I've seen the aftermarket ones (thanks for posting 76lxhatch!) - that's the exact thing I'm after... a bolt-in solution. Then I can keep my standard shifter on the shelf too. It's a bloody nasty price-tag, considering the whole box itself only cost me $500, but that's exactly what I want. It's very good to hear positive feedback about it too. Would you say their claim of a 50% reduction in throw is pretty accurate from your experience with it?
PS. Totally agree, the fact it was designed for their Targa Torana, it must be a good thing
Now to save some cash....
#6
Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:36 AM
These days I don't spend money so freely and would probably lean towards something cheaper and more home made like what Dirtbag is suggesting. At the time though, the shift was absolutely awful and I decided to chuck some money at it, worked out well.
#7 _1uzbt1_
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:35 PM
#8
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:41 PM
#9
Posted 10 August 2010 - 04:11 PM
Yeah, its still not a high performance gearbox and the shift quality in general does leave a bit to be desired. The worst thing I've noticed with the Toyota box is the lack of positive feel especially in that it doesn't follow the H pattern nicely. Its not too bad for what it is though, and having a shorter throw actually gives a little more control to have it where you want it at a moment's notice. Also shifts nicer if you don't completely disengage the clutch.do you have problems with the synchros not keeping up on quicker shifts?Im sure it would be a problem with a worn box etc.
Mine's a lot stiffer but that was one of the things I was aiming for, it was just sloppy and had such a dead feel before, no feedback. I don't find it difficult to use though, it matches the heavy clutch...the dellow short shifter makes the shift pattern incredibly tight, but the stick is mighty hard to push. i wouldnt use it on a daily.
#10 _bunkerjest_
Posted 21 August 2010 - 06:19 PM
#11
Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:00 PM
Edited by LXCHEV, 21 August 2010 - 09:00 PM.
#12
Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:22 PM
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#13
Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:30 PM
#14
Posted 21 August 2010 - 10:28 PM
#15
Posted 21 August 2010 - 11:24 PM
Is the shifter the same for all of the W-series boxes?
not quite, there are a number of shift locations, some forward more some backwards more, one of them should come close to lining up with the orig shifter position in your torana.
the actual gearsticks will interchange though, if thats what you wanted to know.
Edited by greens nice, 21 August 2010 - 11:24 PM.
#16
Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:22 AM
#17
Posted 22 August 2010 - 02:09 PM
Is the shifter the same for all of the W-series boxes?
the actual gearsticks will interchange though, if thats what you wanted to know.
I thought the part inside the box, where the ball of the end of the stick engages, is different between the centred shifter and the rear most shifter, or is that only for the W50?
Also the W50 steel case shifter will not fit the (W55???) W57 and on alloy case AFAIK.
Edited by TerrA LX, 22 August 2010 - 02:19 PM.
#18
Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:09 PM
W40, W50, W55, W57, W58 and the 5 speed R154
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#19
Posted 22 August 2010 - 04:45 PM
#20 _L32M20_
Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:27 PM
#21
Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:01 PM
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they are also on facebook trs shifters
#22 _L32M20_
Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:27 AM
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:44 PM
#24 _L32M20_
Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:24 PM
#25
Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:37 PM
The shift is short for sure but the extra weight rendered it unuseable for daily transport. I even cut up an old spare stick to get the factory top clamping plate which is much better contoured and smoother than the supplied one. Minor improvement but still too stiff.
After the bursitis set in I changed it out.
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