Mini-Spool on the Street
#1 _Viper_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:52 PM
Cheers
-Viper
#2 _CHOPPER_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:00 PM
#3
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:41 PM
(Appart from not being legal LOL) Theyre a bit of a pain to drive.. THe car always wants to push straight when accelerating around corners, theyre an absolute BITCH to reverse park and forget 3 point turns... 33 point turns are the order of the day.
Theyre very hard on axles etc with alot of twist load being placed on them when cornering.. the tighter the worse.. and dont ever have to push the car.. cause the slightest of turns and she locks up solid... Arsehole to push..
On the positive side.. when you mash the GO pedal.. you know your either going to break something.. or both wheels will fry... which is re-assuring when doing a skid or at teh track.
Personally.. a well set up LSD, or a detroit variant ( Tru Track) is a MUCH better option for a streeter!
Hope that answers your questions!
#4 _MYLJ_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:42 PM
#5 _high_rpm_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:05 PM
learnt this one couple of days agoTheyre very hard on axles etc with alot of twist load being placed on them when cornering.. the tighter the worse.. and dont ever have to push the car.. cause the slightest of turns and she locks up solid... Arsehole to push..
#6 _Viper_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:17 PM
thanks
#7 _[BOTTLEDUP]_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:28 PM
#8 _MAWLER_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:51 PM
All of the stuff tiny says is true, less than ideal for street driving.
#9
Posted 09 May 2006 - 12:03 AM
#10
Posted 09 May 2006 - 12:25 PM
GTRboyy: I FOund that out at supercruise on anzac day when i had to reverse park infront of a police officer... THe obvious chirping of the tyres and they KNEW it was a spool but yeah.. they didnt say anything! (Bigger fish to fry!)
Cheers
#11
Posted 09 May 2006 - 02:31 PM
#12 _Lostit_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 06:50 PM
#13 _Bomber Watson_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 06:53 PM
note, none of these cars are daily's. even weekly is a bit much. i currently take mine out once or twice a week and owuld like to keep that, the mates cars which are already spooled come out more like once every two weeks to a month.
#14 _jap-xu1_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 07:07 PM
if i had a dollar for every heli ive done in locked up gemini's lmao
#15 _MAWLER_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 09:14 PM
#16
Posted 09 May 2006 - 09:18 PM
#17 _355lxss_
Posted 10 May 2006 - 02:19 PM
#18
Posted 10 May 2006 - 03:07 PM
in reply to post up above... they should have come factory with choppies and a locker as most gems cop those mods as soon as they are purchased anyway... also a gemini has no real purpose but to be thrashed...
#19 _Spyder_
Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:03 PM
#20 _355lxss_
Posted 11 May 2006 - 03:04 PM
yeah a mate of mine did that in his 2l escort, although he decided to just chop the axle, hell funny, 4th gear burnouts and like spyder said it would just spin like crazy in every gear, even when he was trying to take off real slowly. would not suggest o do this on the street thouHeres somthing fun to do in a gemini. Grind the splines off one axle and you will have a burnout machine with all the driving force going to one axle itll do 4th gear burnouts no worries. extreemly hard to drive in the wet tho lol. a mate of mine did this
#21 _QIKSLR_
Posted 14 May 2006 - 09:34 AM
I've found them to be fine. If you've got good bushes in the rear and and a largish profile tyre, you wont really notice it's there. When you have low profile tyres like my mate had on his VN, you'll find it'll chirp alot more where as larger profile takes up alot of the slip.
I've driven my mates VN 5spd with a mini spool and my mates LH auto with a big stall and mini spool. Both were fine to drive and I've parked both in hairy places and didn't have a problem.
My mate welded up his banjo in his old LX and it has harsh as hell and drove like shit. I'm guessing that it was due to old bushes. He had decent profile tyres on it.
The real downfall to spools is that when you put the clutch in they're still locked. So for example if you hold it sideways out of a corner and you've given it too much, with a LSD or locker when you back off, you can usually just give it a shit load of oposite lock and you can gather it back up. But with a spool the inside wheel forces the other to light up. My mate found this out in his torry. Unfortunatly I was in the car at the time.
So quite often, if the car wants to go around the best bet is to keep it on the gas and let it go around. Look at the V8 supercars... So many times in the past I'd see them lose it but they keep going around and I'd be thinking just put the clutch in you clown, but now that I've driven one I know what they do.
Having said that I think they're fine, but they have a driving style of their own. Mark Dallaqua once told me, "if you can master driving with a spool then go to a locker, you'll be an ace driver".
Edited by QIKSLR, 14 May 2006 - 09:42 AM.
#22 _vngmh_
Posted 18 May 2006 - 06:40 PM
but yes...spools arnt all that fun to drive on the street but still manageable
#23
Posted 19 May 2006 - 03:06 PM
For the street.. My vote is either a good LSD or a tru-trak detroit type centre...
Cheers
#24 _Oldn64_
Posted 19 May 2006 - 03:44 PM
Most LSD's if setup correctly will be great to drive and also give you the best of both worlds. Pushing is a pain with locked/spooled diffs but then again you have a car to drive not push.....
I have used a torsen 1.5way lsd before and by far these are the bees knees when it comes to lsd's. I do worn you that these are not the c heapest option but I have yet to see one break! I would recommend that you get a good lsd rather than a locker, the amount of issues you introduce are not worth the hassle. This is of course ignoring the whole legal issues and safty, but hey...
Cheers
#25
Posted 19 May 2006 - 04:01 PM
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