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escutcheon panel types & shifter boots

Started by _big chris_ , May 13 2006 06:46 PM

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#1 _big chris_

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Posted 13 May 2006 - 06:46 PM

Hi all,
As I have posted in the driveline section,
am converting the LX from Auto to manual,

these question are about the escutcheon panel in the console,
as well as the manual gear shifter boot,

Are there different types of the escutcheon panels?
as I would like to find the original SS type.
Will post a pic of the current one, when I find my camera.

This is another thread,
has a pic Leaky posted, shows a escutcheon panel.
http://www.gmh-toran...?showtopic=1448
Is this one the original type?

Manual shifter boot,
How is it held into the console?
Can you buy a new one?
Saw this on eBay, but don't think it will fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com......AMEWA:IT&rd=1

Cheers
Chris.

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Posted 13 May 2006 - 07:07 PM

the switch panel leaky posted is correct, ( below you will see an SL and SS one) the shifter surround you are looking at there is for a sedan, not a hatch, you can buy hatch ones from rare spares and they look the same as the one in leakeys pics.
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part number at rares for what you need is GSB1004A

Edited by REDA9X, 13 May 2006 - 07:08 PM.

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#3 Heath

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Posted 14 May 2006 - 11:48 AM

Hi Big Chris, the one on eBay with the black plastic surround will suit a manual Sunbird, nothing else in the Torana range. The boot itself may suit any applications though. I need one, or I might make one... it doesn't have to be original...

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#4 _big chris_

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Posted 16 May 2006 - 10:08 PM

Hey all,
this is the part that is currently filling the hole in the front of the console under the radio,

https://cache.gmh-to...na/PIC00430.jpg Posted Image

RedA9X,
any chance that console is for sale?

Cheers,
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Posted 16 May 2006 - 10:16 PM

That is still a genuine SS item AFAIK, it was just made earlier than the one in RED's photo.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:55 AM

Hi Big Chris, the one on eBay with the black plastic surround will suit a manual Sunbird, nothing else in the Torana range. The boot itself may suit any applications though. I need one, or I might make one... it doesn't have to be original...

The one on ebay is for a sedan, not the sunbird type.
As for the console being for sale, I hadn't thought about it. I might consider a good offer. The switch panel you have is for an early hatchback. The vinyl boot is very easy to make, I have a couple cut out ready to be stiched at home for both hatches and sedens in the correct material.

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#7 _The Baron_

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:23 AM

WOW these posts are wide.

RED are the Rare Spares manual inserts right for the hatch?

Are they not a little too fat around the plactic retainer, ie to suit large holden console?

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:47 AM

do you mean early lx or LH sedan Baron? The ones used in the early sedans (lid at front) should be the same as the hatch ones, so if Rares made copies they should be the same,I have not compared a genuine one to a rares one yet.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 05:41 PM

Hey Red, do you have any templates or dimensions for the manual console shift boots?

I've got a ruined auto plate that apparantly can be hollowed out, and the frame be used for a shift boot. I can get a collar from anything really... or I don't even need one. Does anyone have pics of boots they've made up?

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:26 PM

Yes, I have the templates here for them, and I have some cut out ready to go, what one do you need, hatch (same as early sedan with the lid at front) or late sedan? I've postedsome pics of the 2 different surrounds and the plate that the boot is glued to and then slots underneath to hold the boot on.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 07:06 PM

Early sedan style mine is. Any tips etc would be appreciated, but I'm not going to do it too soon because I haven't selected a nice material... yet.

And for those wondering, yeah the car's a 1977 Sedan, but I have Sean's console in it that is obviously LH.

If you could do some kind of scanned diagram or paint diagram with measurements and stuff it would be fantastic. I'm in no rush for it, and as long as I can understand it it doesn't have to look too flash.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 07:16 PM

I'll do something in the next few days, i have to do some measurements and scans of other things for a few guys here

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#13 _The Baron_

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 09:31 AM

Rare Spares lists a 2817277 (plate only, no boot)

This part is in the LX parts manual but from memory does not list a body style.
The RS unit appears to be straight black and does not have the grey "insert".

This area I will need to tackle in the future so I will take an original to compare when the time comes.

Someone on Ebay is selling dash and console inserts that are grey and look OK.
The console insert may be all that is needed to complete the RS unit for an SS hatch.

Any thoughts or experiance?

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 10:04 AM

Baron, even new from Holden, they were plain black, the inserts you had to get extra. I gather you are concerned because you need one for your car when you get it on the road. One thing you need to cosider too is there was even 2 different hatch style surrounds, the very eary ones had a larger section at the rear, the one i have shown has the smaller rear section, about 1/2" deep, while the earlier ones were about 3/4" deep. I believe rares makes both types, or at least I have seen reproductions of both types on EBAY along with the front lids etc. You shuld have no dramas getting the right one for your car, and if it turns out you can't give me a call, I may be able to help out.

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 12:58 PM

Cheers RED

As you may know, mine was a rough unit when I got it. One owner tried to trade it in for a "gasp" 924 porsche but was knocked back.

It has been driven into the ground by every owner and everything has been costing $$$$ to bloody fix. Up until a few years ago I was investing at a loss.
Just as well I never intend to sell!

It's all the little things that take so much time.

Got the diff out at the moment and found more grief. Here we go, more $$$$.

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 05:32 PM

Baron, I know Ziggy at Dash Original was doing those silver inserts - exactly the ones that you want. He copied mine for the repros, from memory. He's got the colour pretty much spot on too. Can't see them on their website though - Dash Original Torana stuff

If he's no longer doing them, he can paint some woodgrain ones if you have them. Another option is to go looking for some. Pretty sure the HX style ones are the same for the front one, and the rear one is thicker, but can be cut down to size to suit LX hatch.