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[S pack]

I have.

Officially GMH shows the followinmg for the Rear compartment
Fuel tank filler neck, rear compartment interior painted Black 578-4149.(578 would be a reasonably flat black). All except XU1 which was painted Black 599-364 or Black 222-6459. this is Warrigul Black but flat not gloss. I can not tell you what 364 is but it must date back to the 50s or 60s.
This is what Engineering released on LJ I cannot say what the plants actually did.

Just so you know the LC was - Fuel tank filler neck, rear compartment finished in Black 299-9187 or Box Black 599-5275. 9187 was painted under the front fenders, side rails, bumper brackets and visible part of the fuel tank.

578 is medium gloss.

[71xu1]

Your contact at GMH is spot on it's about a 60% to 70% gloss level in the engine bay simply black with a touch of flattening base. I went PPG midnight black acrylic lacquer which is the same as Warrigal black 1 litre with about 60 ml of flattening base this will vary with brands etc. I also did a test panel to make sure I was happy with the gloss level. The pics should help.

Cheers Dave

PS don't forget to put the texture coating on the firewall before you put your colour on.

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Edited by 71xu1, 17 April 2011 - 06:13 PM.

[ewe-one]

Black 60 is 04149, but the engine bay, suspension etc tends to be a little greyer than this. You may want to ask your paint shop to add an ants dick of white to the Black 60.

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Cheers
Ross

[71xu1]

What you have there is GMH chassis black for the underside (floorpan) and to suit HJ to HZ engine bay wheelarch splash shields not XU1 engine bays.

[ewe-one]

No actually 04149 is for the dash, steering column, glove box, A pillars etc on a LJ and some LC's which is Jet Black flattened to give 60% gloss or as GMH call it Black 60. As no one know the exact engine bay colour code due to the paint vat being replenished with the previous days paint, the best option (as mentioned) if you want to replicate this is to add a small amount of white to black (04149 or just jet black) to grey it a little.

Cheers

[71xu1]

This has always been a much debated topic. All that I definetly know is that under my never removed ADR compliance tag (2/71 Adelaide XU1), and I thought long and hard before I removed it. The sole purpose of removing it was to match the colour for the engine bay and it was not a VAT mix as in the boot area definetly straight medium gloss black perhaps some cars were done like this in the engine bay but mine was not but did have the blue/grey in the boot area.

Cheers Dave

[crabba67]

Part of the GMH paint department sheets for engine bay LJ 89200 XU1 p/n 2820675 DIF-1 and LJ 89200 GTR p/n 2820675 DIE-1.

cheers

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[XU-1 RAT]

That sorted that out.
well done crabba
The paper work is gold

[crabba67]

Original factory paint on a CK Brisbane built inside boot... Warrigal black gloss

Cheers 

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[jd lj]

Part of the GMH paint department sheets for engine bay LJ 89200 XU1 p/n 2820675 DIF-1 and LJ 89200 GTR p/n 2820675 DIE-1.
cheers

On line 4 of Crabba's Engineering Department sheets above it says that the visible portion of the fuel tanks should be black, by visible portion I assume that they mean the top of the tank seen from inside the boot. I've seen unrestored cars where the underside of the tank is unpainted so I take it to mean then that the top part should be painted.

[MFM]

jdlj I'm not sure if I have understood your question correctly but by interpretation of the painted area's of the tank that they are referring to, is that part of the tank that can be seen from standing looking at the back of the car. I have just completed a massive cleaning job of the whole undercarriage of my 5/72 XU1 (Adelaide) to scrub is back to original factory finish and this is what presented itself after I scrubbed the tank. It can be seen that only the visible part of the tank is painted. I'm pretty confident that my car has never been touched (painted or cleaned) underneath since new so I can assume this is how factory did it.

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[Dr Terry]

I believe that MFM is correct. GM-H did the same thing with some of the earlier model cars too. They just gave it a quick squirt of black so the shiny part of the tank doesn't stand out too much.

 

Dr Terry

[jd lj]

Yeah, I've seen them like that previously too. But then I know of a low km 73 Bathurst XU-1 that has no paint on the underside of the the tank. When i cleaned up my tank it had no paint what so ever but the top looked like it had been gone over with a wire brush, the bottom hadn't.

The term visible portion is a bit vague as it doesn't state visible from where.

MFM, is the top of your tank painted or raw?

[Dr Terry]

The term visible portion is a bit vague as it doesn't state visible from where.
 

Really with the car fully built the only "visible" part of the fuel tank is the rear underside. You need to open the boot lid & remove the boot mat (& trim on an XU1) to see the top of the tank. Or jack the car up to see the rest of the underside.

 

Dr Terry

[MFM]

jdlj I think its raw (galv)? hard to tell has has the original vinyl cover that they glued over the tanks inside the boot.

[MFM]

jdlj is yours an XU1 tank or standard? pretty sure the standard tanks were just galv inside the boot, whereas with the XU1's they covered the tank with a vinyl cover

[Kevrev]

Here's my standard GTR tank in original gal finish

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[yel327]

I just got some paint mixed up to try to make my HK tank look Gal. Did it as I’ve had it modded to take a VY MRA. It is just a acrylic metallic basically. Won’t look totally right but close enough.