rear discs
#1 _SSwampy_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:33 AM
Fit my 14/10 HQ stud pattern wheels on the back
Fit my HZ rear discs
Retain banjo diff (for a while anyhow)
I have a pair of HZ disc 10 bolt diff axles I want to get cut down and resplined to fit the housing
I think the bearing size is the same.
Can anyone think of any reason why I couldnt get this to work with out me having to modify things too much.
Cheers,
Lyndon
#2 _Leakey_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:57 AM
#3
Posted 30 May 2006 - 12:01 PM
#4 _SSwampy_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 01:25 PM
I dont want to change the tail shaft etc, I'm very budget orientated at the moment.
Cheers,
Lyndon
#5
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:12 PM
#6
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:19 PM
#7 _LX8VD69_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:21 PM
#8
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:27 PM
#9 _SSwampy_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:39 PM
Can any one think of any other reason this wont work?
#10 _CHOPPER_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 06:49 PM
#11
Posted 01 June 2006 - 11:58 AM
#12
Posted 01 June 2006 - 09:22 PM
whilst i was waiting for my mark williams axles (8 week wait) needed to get my car on the ground, my diff guy had some stock commodore axles laying around (28 spline) I threw 1 straight in and the other 1 needed to be shortened and resplined.I also heard that the short axle out of a VN is the right length to go into a 10 bolt in a torana
In other words if you want commodore axles only 1 side needs to be shortened and resplined.
#13
Posted 01 June 2006 - 10:26 PM
#14
Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:53 AM
got a nine inch with HQ stud pattern can ya fit HZ,WB rear disc brakes to,its a LH torana 1975 with out any problems
cheers
#15
Posted 10 June 2006 - 01:06 AM
bango axles are same length L/R. the larger diffs centre is off set so one axle is longer than the other.so you could use 2 of the short ones then?
the vn short axle is actually 10mm short for lh, lx track but still slides in far enough to run.
the SHORT axle is usually ran as the long one and the long one cut down for the short.
Edited by ALX76, 10 June 2006 - 01:07 AM.
#16 _Oldn64_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:38 AM
I would not be doing it this way. axles are a layered metal and spring in one way. if you swap sides then you will twist them effectively "the wrong way" and actually splinter the axle. if you run new axles then this is nto an issue as the axles has nto been twisted in use as yet.bango axles are same length L/R. the larger diffs centre is off set so one axle is longer than the other.so you could use 2 of the short ones then?
the vn short axle is actually 10mm short for lh, lx track but still slides in far enough to run.
the SHORT axle is usually ran as the long one and the long one cut down for the short.
If you are goign to run a second hand axle always try and run it on teh correct side. Otherwise things usually go bang in a big way...
Cheers
#17 _SSwampy_
Posted 12 June 2006 - 05:14 PM
I have a set of HQ stud pattern hotwires to fit so am not interested in commodore diffs.
Cheers
Lyndon
#18
Posted 12 June 2006 - 06:52 PM
just make sure you go a 4 pinion type as the two pinion type are no stronger behind an 8 or heavy 6.After much thought on the subject, I have to decided to ditch the banjo all together, and go the 10 bolt option. Brocky reckons they are great in torana's and couldnt understand why race teams were putting in 9 inches. I could live with out the power sapping design of the 9 inch. Now i just have to keep my eyes out for a 1 tonner diff or a allready made 10 bolt.
I have a set of HQ stud pattern hotwires to fit so am not interested in commodore diffs.
Cheers
Lyndon
#19
Posted 13 June 2006 - 01:51 PM
#20 _Oldn64_
Posted 15 June 2006 - 03:23 PM
Correct. The 10 bolt sals has a different crown wheel and pinion this by no means is anything like the 8 bolt and banjo which use the same crown wheel and pinion. So the extra sthrength comes for the different internals of the 10 bolt. you cannot make a 8 bolt into a 10 bolt. I have been told that you can get a VP bw centre into a 10 bolt sals housing but have never tried it..all 10 bolts that I have seen are only 2 pinion, its the BW,s that you could get 4 pinion
Cheers
Remove the backing plate and count the crown wheel bolts. there shoudl be 10
#21
Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:59 PM
I wouldn't use a cut and resplined axle at all if using an LSD or a locker after having experiencing one let go under full power.
You are seriously weakening the axle when it is resplined.
Then again - no worse than the standard Torana axles.
M@
#22 _Oldn64_
Posted 15 June 2006 - 06:20 PM
It al depends on the resplining process. there is backyard, there is dogdey then there is proper resplining. I suggest that you got the dodgey option. How do you think teh factor splines axles??? It is not rocket science...If you do put the HZ discs on the Torana rear, make sure you get the longer backing plate bolts (with the large head with the flat side) and the 10mm spacer ring from the HZ disc brake setup as the Torana setup doesn't have them and I can't find where to buy these bolts. The wheel studs are longer too if you are changing them for new ones.
I wouldn't use a cut and resplined axle at all if using an LSD or a locker after having experiencing one let go under full power.
You are seriously weakening the axle when it is resplined.
Then again - no worse than the standard Torana axles.
M@
Cheers
#23
Posted 15 June 2006 - 06:34 PM
#24 _Oldn64_
Posted 15 June 2006 - 06:40 PM
Correct this is the correct way.They roll the splines in if they are to be strong axles - and they are raised so the root of the spline is larger than the diameter of the rest of the axle so the stress doesnt concentrate in the weakest part i.e. the spline.'
Cheers
#25
Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:20 PM
where would i get this done and how much roughly.They roll the splines in if they are to be strong axles - and they are raised so the root of the spline is larger than the diameter of the rest of the axle so the stress doesnt concentrate in the weakest part i.e. the spline.'
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