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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

Byron, the XW-1 blueprints exist and the tank is shown.......it has also been reproduced in ToranaTough........they just hadn't finalized how the tank would connect with the fillers.......back of an LJ is much closer to the massive vibration of a big cam 308 than in a big Holden.......

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:48 AM

I was thinking about the fillers in the rally cars moreso than the tank. These would be designed for excessive vibration too.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:46 AM

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If you read this Street Machine mag article on the Styling V8 LJ Torana from June 1990, they seem to think that the Barneys Shirt LJ XU-1 is the fabled V8 LJ XU-1 Car. ??????????.
So
3-V8 LJ GTR's
1-V8 LJ XU-1 (Barneys Shirt)
So GMH might of had 4-V8 LJ's not 3 LJ's

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:45 PM

How many times Al. No No No

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:52 PM

How many times Al. No No No


Haaaaaaa Norm
Street Machine were :stirpot: back in 1990 then, and now me in 2012 :stirpot:

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 01:51 PM

Haaaaaaa Norm
Street Machine were :stirpot: back in 1990 then, and now me in 2012 :stirpot:

If they ever were going to build such a car apart from a test mule it would not have had a factory modified motor like the L34 engine as it was not until april 73 that REDCO were sent bare engines to do the developement thing.1972 was the debut date that V8 XU1,s were to hit Bathurst. So H,s special engine hotrods are in the same class as my mates 100/4 healy where even a supercharger was not quick enough. Out with the 4 in with a 400+cu Oldsmobile V8 -not enough -so supercharge that.Held many records at Mallala with narrow bluestreak tyres. Lanac park record still stands.Probably more records at Wakefield and collingrove in its class still stand today. More than a match for a V8 Xu1. Only one thing they were not a production vehicle along with the V8 Xu1 , but the L34 was built as a production vehicle .

Edited by outer control, 01 April 2012 - 01:56 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:50 PM

If they ever were going to build such a car apart from a test mule it would not have had a factory modified motor like the L34 engine as it was not until april 73 that REDCO were sent bare engines to do the developement thing.1972 was the debut date that V8 XU1,s were to hit Bathurst. So H,s special engine hotrods are in the same class as my mates 100/4 healy where even a supercharger was not quick enough. Out with the 4 in with a 400+cu Oldsmobile V8 -not enough -so supercharge that.Held many records at Mallala with narrow bluestreak tyres. Lanac park record still stands.Probably more records at Wakefield and collingrove in its class still stand today. More than a match for a V8 Xu1. Only one thing they were not a production vehicle along with the V8 Xu1 , but the L34 was built as a production vehicle .

I do not know why you guys get so exited about your prototype v8 xu1,s as VDT did it years before with 308 in Big Bertha with Gerry Marshall driving it was certainly a match for H,s car or H probably copied from VDT.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

I do not know why you guys get so exited about your prototype v8 xu1,s as VDT did it years before with 308 in Big Bertha with Gerry Marshall driving it was certainly a match for H,s car or H probably copied from VDT.


Except that thing had so many handling flaws, it was near to undrivable....

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 06:35 PM

Holden were testing the Current model XU-1 with a modified V8 Engine, not a standard 308 V8, now who modified the 308 V8 in that Current model XU-1, that is the Question.
HDT HQ would be the builder you would think, now under C.A.M.S Rules of 1972, what raced on the track, had to be sold on the showroom, that was the rules of 1972, so there would of been 200-Current XU-1's with modified V8 Engines under C.A.M.S Rules of
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 06:52 PM

Did Barney's vin tag ever turn up ?

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:21 PM

Did Barney's vin tag ever turn up ?


The rego papers that Holden did at Vic Roads say that its a XU-1 on its rego papers, list its Chassis Number and JP Engine
Number and the car still has its JP Engine and its Chassis number matches its A.D.R tag that matches the chassis number
on the original rego papers from vic roads, mmmmm has a JP Engine, mmmmmmm its a XU-1

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:31 PM

The rego papers that Holden did at Vic Roads say that its a XU-1 on its rego papers, list its Chassis Number and JP Engine
Number and the car still has its JP Engine and its Chassis number matches its A.D.R tag that matches the chassis number
on the original rego papers from vic roads, mmmmm has a JP Engine, mmmmmmm its a XU-1

so no v8 .i thought hdt were race team workshop i dont think they would have been in a position to build and supply 200 hot engines for your beloved xu1 v8

Edited by outer control, 01 April 2012 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:34 PM

The Car was never rego at Holden from Jan 1972 to June 1974 ???????
then they rego it in July 1974 then sold it

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

so no v8 .i thought hdt were race team workshop i dont think they would have been in a position to build and supply 200 hot engines for your beloved xu1 v8


why not Harry Firth did 200 engines for the GT500 Cortina for Ford

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

why not Harry Firth did 200 engines for the GT500 Cortina for Ford

What sort of drugs do you use mate

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:54 PM

Well there are XW-7 parts sheets listing engine parts for the XW-7 V8 XU-1
So must be GMH Doing the Engines, mmmmmmmmmm so a Modified 308 V8 before L34
And no need for the personal attack

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:29 PM

Ok, but it's an XU1 missing its only identifying tag, and the other two tags have obviously been removed at some point given the non original rivets.... And it has a JP block that was sitting on the floor when purchased.... May well be that car you claim...... May not....unfortunately one of the many "XU-1's" missing just one or many small details that differentiates it from a stand out....

http://www.gmh-toran.../21540-lj-xu-1/

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:48 PM

Adam , there is more than one way to identify a car , a vin tag would have been handy but is not necessary especially if you are lucky enough to have purchased a car that was rego'd in victoria as you can access the rego details as i have.

Well i'll take the info vic roads provides especially as it was GMH who sold the car and when the eng.no and chassis no match it really matters little whether the vin tag is there or not as the nos. scratched on the back of the adr tag match the vin.

You have my contact details feel free to ring me.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

Adam, stirring the pot on this car is useless as the amount of effort gone into ID-ing it surpasses Saggy Sarah...........
We know what it is and where it's been, even more than is publicly stated, and still tracing more info.

Barney's Shirt could be the most significant car to come out of Holden so far..........
There are a couple of other cars that haven't come to light yet........

Grant..

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:01 PM

Adam, stirring the pot on this car is useless as the amount of effort gone into ID-ing it surpasses Saggy Sarah...........
We know what it is and where it's been, even more than is publicly stated, and still tracing more info.

Barney's Shirt could be the most significant car to come out of Holden so far..........
There are a couple of other cars that haven't come to light yet........

Grant..


Very nicely put.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:03 PM

Yeah for sure Grant, Barneys Shirt would be one of the greatests car from Holden and still carrys mysterys about it.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:47 PM

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This Hot 308 1972 LJ XU-1 is still alive in Tassy, its a Candy-Apple Red Colour, runs only a 6 Cyl these days, been in the same area for a long time now, would of been a beast back in 1985 with its twin turbo's on the 308 V8 Engine.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

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i think this is the Car how it looks these days, there is a look alike of it in Tassy as well, that was on ebay for sale not so long ago, but i think this pic is the real deal one.




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