how do i get the best out of a 253?
#1 _oikurtman_
Posted 08 June 2006 - 12:08 PM
I've been convinced to change my 202 to a 253. I've been told that it will actually be cheaper on fuel, but is there anything I could do to make it even cheaper to run? its my daily driver...
I've got a set of genie extractors which I'm putting on it, as well as a twin 2.something inch exhaust, but it has a broken crossover just after the extractors. Should I repair the crossover or cut it out?
Any ideas on carbies or cams?
Cheers,
Kurt.
#2
Posted 08 June 2006 - 12:17 PM
again speak with camtech or any local cam grinder, they are very helpful face to face.
Edited by ALX76, 08 June 2006 - 12:19 PM.
#3 _Herne_
Posted 08 June 2006 - 12:33 PM
It gives you some idea of what they do to the 253's that ran in the Commodore cup.
I would not expect much in the way of economy though.
Cheers
Herne
#4
Posted 08 June 2006 - 01:00 PM
forgot to add true roller double row BRAND NAME cam chain and gear set.standard rebuild with mild cam/springs to match, stock carb and repiar the exhaust. add an electronic dizzy from a commy.
again speak with camtech or any local cam grinder, they are very helpful face to face.
as with any part, spend a little extra and use quallity parts.
#5
Posted 08 June 2006 - 01:05 PM
#6
Posted 08 June 2006 - 01:51 PM
acl flat tops
standard crank and rods
standard pre poll heads, tidied up a little.
edelbrock performer manifold or a modified standard pre poll manifold (the earlier the better)
re-jetted quadrajet (PM purpleLC)
rollmaster timing chain
and a nice set of extractors
buying as much of that second hand as possible you should be able to to do it for around $1000
#7
Posted 08 June 2006 - 05:36 PM
haha just kidding...
You can get a 253 to dance quite well with a good cam, carby and exhaust! They are cheap things you can do...
If you want to start getting really good power out of them.. ditch it and get a 308
#8 _oikurtman_
Posted 08 June 2006 - 09:28 PM
Anyone got opinions for the crossover pipe? Cut it or fix it? I've heard they go and sound better with out them??
Cheers,
Kurt.
#9
Posted 08 June 2006 - 10:06 PM
#10
Posted 08 June 2006 - 11:47 PM
#11
Posted 09 June 2006 - 12:11 AM
if your motor is worn eg. compression down, blowing smoke or valve springs weak you not going to benifit from "bolt on's" better save and re-co the motor, you will have a far bigger gain.I wasn't really planning on rebuilding it, sorta just looking for bolt on ideas...
Anyone got opinions for the crossover pipe? Cut it or fix it? I've heard they go and sound better with out them??
Cheers,
Kurt.
#12
Posted 09 June 2006 - 12:17 AM
blue were a better cast, but as for valve size, if they were any bigger they would be shrouded by the bore and probably even hit on a high lift cam.Dont the blue motor 253 VH heads have bigger ports, valves and better valve springs? Also dont they run a quaddie from the factory? Correct me if I'm wrong here.
if the springs were any better, thier age would dictate replacement anyway.
the late blues bid run a quad but not the same as 308.
#13 _timbotorrie_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 09:53 AM
fluffys dont like too many revs!
#14 _Oldn64_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:42 PM
1. no lead foot
2. no huge cams.
As soon as you start really increasing cam sizes etc you will find the fuel bill will be unbelievable. Similarly if you drive with your foot through teh floor then the fuel will flow nicely.
All blue 253's ran a quaddy. The only difference from my reference material is that the secodnary hanger are different and teh secondary fuel needles are different. all teh rest is fine.
Cheers
#15
Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:42 PM
#16 _Oldn64_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:44 PM
What did I do???wanna make a bet Timbo? mine loves every bit of 7000rpm!
253's can rev if the right pistons are put in them, I would not rev a stocky to more than 5300. otherwsie you might as well get out and catch them...
Cheers
#17
Posted 10 June 2006 - 03:03 PM
mine went to 7500 once, didnt really mean it, was smacken it to 6000 and hit a wet patch, anyway i cracked the cam retainer and spat the plug out from behind the cam.wanna make a bet Timbo? mine loves every bit of 7000rpm!
ding a ling ding ding ding a ling all the way home.
Edited by ALX76, 10 June 2006 - 03:06 PM.
#18
Posted 10 June 2006 - 03:29 PM
I need a tacho that goes over 7000, so I can see what I am doing over that.
mine is not standard either......
#19 _oikurtman_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 07:12 PM
Cheers.
#20 _munro_
Posted 10 June 2006 - 10:32 PM
one was helping the other move 600km the 253 used about 50% more fuel while being driven together
hence get a 308 or even a 304
tom
#21 _oikurtman_
Posted 11 June 2006 - 04:36 PM
#22
Posted 11 June 2006 - 06:40 PM
If you can get a second hand blue in good nik complete you will have elec ignition and 4bbl carb combo standard ready to go, preferably see it running and check comp etc, otherwise sitck with a red that needs a reco.SHould I be getting a red or blue 253??
any reconditioned motor with a mild cam can be a very suprising performer.
#23
Posted 12 June 2006 - 12:40 AM
#24 _Unicorn_
Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:03 PM
Some thieving mongrel enjoyed my power & economy ratio so much I never saw it again. Bastard!! Not that I hold a grudge, but it was taken between 8-8:30pm on Friday 24th June 1994.
Cheers,
Neil
#25 _switchedon_
Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:42 PM
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