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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:05 AM

I have found a tig that i believe will be suitable and ticks all the boxes but I have only been able to find the Miller diversion 180 for sale in America and it doesn't have a plug to suit us here in Australia. It would be a great help it someone would be able to tell me if it would work here if the plug was changed?

Here's a link to the miller site: http://www.millerwel...hp?model=M00337
Ebay link: http://www.ebay.com....984.m1438.l2649

Miller Diversion 180 Specifications:

Diversion 180 Input Power:
  • 115 and 230V, Single Phase Power
Diversion 180 Rated Output:
  • 150A at 16V, 20% Duty Cycle
Diversion 180 Welding Amperage Range:
  • 115V: 10-125A AC/DC
  • 230V: 10-180A AC/DC
Diversion 180 Max. Open-Circuit Voltage:
  • 80
Diversion 180 Net Weight:
  • 50 Lbs (23 kg)

Thank you in advance, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:34 AM

From the looks of it it 'would' work but i would have serious doubts with running an adapter with a welder due to the high current draw, plus, if you have to use it on a site or a regulated work shop it will not pass certification with the plug changed.

IMO look for something either local or something that does not need modification for your purpose.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

what brand would you recommend? I like miller and lincoln machines especially for tig but they are harder to source and a very expensive here. I have looked at everlast welders and they are cheap but have heard bad things about them.
what i am looking for mainly is an AC/DC machine preferably comes with a foot pedal. well i guess something very similar to the Miller diversion 180.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

Not much of a welder my self, but the boys at work just use a little caddy welder set up for tig. We have a big tig welder at the main workshop but the caddy seem to be the go (and its only a 10A plug). Much cheaper.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

You'd just need to get the power lead and plug changed. Nothing wrong with that, normal when they get a damaged lead. The spec sheet (link below) says it runs on 230V, 50 or 60Hz so fine for here. Spec sheet does say it needs 20A at 230V so you'd need a 20A single phase outlet and dedicated 20A or 25A breaker to run it to full potential. This will mean 6 or 10sqmm cable as well from the breaker to the 20A outlet, depending upon how long the run is and how it is installed. You can run it on a 16A circuit but only up to 150A which is a 20% duty cycle - probably where you'd max out anyway. In this case you'll need a dedicated 15A outlet and a 16A breaker, and to do it right run 4sqmm cable to the outlet. The 20A outlet will cost about the same in any case. Clipsal sell a 20A outlet in either industrial style or a domestic style if it is indoors.

http://www.millerwel...heets/AD1-5.pdf

Here is a Clipsal 56 series 20A single phase outlet: http://www.ebay.com....=item3ccb204c71. You can also get these in a traditional looking single phase plug and socket, here is a plug with the traditional style in 20A, cannot be plugged into a normal 10 or 15A outlet as the pins are too big: http://www.ebay.com....=item2575e8cbdc - you can buy the socket outlet to match.
Here is a 20A round pin plug to suit the first outlet: http://www.ebay.com....=item4abcc48d4b

Here is a whole gange of used 20A single phase outlets and plugs to match: http://www.ebay.com....=item2c689f3c03

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

The Miller unit is a very nice machine, and as yel327 has said, can be run here in Oz.
Another off the shelf option is the Cigweld weldskill 200 AC/DC TIG
http://victortechnol...dID=2326&brand=
It runs on a 15 amp outlet and is a nice machine for home workshop use.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

Thanks for the input, i am really keen on the Miller and i am going to go with it. From what i have gathered here and else where it definitely should work i just wanted to check again before spending any money. I am very greatful for everyone sharing their knowledge.

Thanks guys

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:06 AM

15A plug will be fine.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:45 AM

Only if it is not used at 180A setting. Plastic will melt in a standard 15A rewirable plug around the pins if 20A is run through it too often. Also will see melting issues in a standard 15A GPO. I've seen it happen too many times. I regularly also see idiots that file down the earth pin on a 15A plug to use it in a 10A GPO. Often you see the plugs melt, but the fire risk inside the GPO on the wall is an even bigger risk. Plus the excessive current will affect the ability of the GPO to "hold" a plug in place, so it flops and and leave exposed 240V for someone to put their fingers across, and no RCD will help you with a finger across 240V between active and neutral pins.




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