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[snickersbar]

hi all im new here just wonding does 3 speed manual column shift fi under the bonnet with a v8 in there?? 

[snickersbar]

any help??

 

[rodomo]

We're talking big Torana?

Dunno? Don't think anyone would off hand? I don't think that was ever factory (but I could be wrong?)

You could be a pioneer here!

[snickersbar]

i was talking about lx torana, i know the that a 3 speed came out for sixers with a manual steering column shift

just seeing if you can uses it with 253

[rodomo]

Maybe? HT, HQ etc came with column 3 speed and V8. But I'd reckon it would be an adaption in your case.

[snickersbar]

das anybody has manual steering column for an LX torana going cheep in melbourne??

[TerrA LX]

I say do it, how cool, a 3 speed column change manual V8 Torana.

 

Is your car 3 speed manual now?

 

6cly 3 speed bolts up pretty much the same as a V8 3 speed so only problem I can think of would be selector rod length as the bell housings are different length.

[yel327]

3spd column shift was standard fitment to 6cyl LH-LX. Everything for a V8 column shift is the same as 6cyl stuff, gearbox stays in the same place, only reason V8 boxes have a longer input shaft is the V8 Holden engine is shorter and thus the input shaft has to be longer to reach the engine (historically, if GMH had continued with Chev V8 engines the gearboxes would be the same for Holden 6 and Chev V8, just like Saginaws are. But Holden V8 is shorter than the Chev). The only complication might be with clearance to the clutch rat-trap off a LH-LX V8, just use a mofified UC pedal and full cable bellhousing and it should all be sweet. There won't be a lot of room for exhaust though, I doubt you would be using off the shelf extractors. I'd try dummying it all up first too to make sure shift rods clear the V8 engine and bellhousing as well as the rods and column are in a different orientation than they are on HQ-WB.

Edited by yel327, 13 March 2013 - 03:58 PM.

[A9X]

i have a really great condition 3 speed coloumn.

 

but i'm in perth

[snickersbar]

my not 3 speed yet, im picking up a gearbox up 2moro nite, im gona use the the V8 parts off my 4 speed box, just need a steering column with the linkages

mite sell my lower dash which is uncut to help pay for a column

[rodomo]

Exhaust clearance would be the biggest issue I would think?

[snickersbar]

Exhaust clearance would be the biggest issue I would think?

yeah frist im gona get the box and linkages set up frist and go from there

[yel327]

my not 3 speed yet, im picking up a gearbox up 2moro nite, im gona use the the V8 parts off my 4 speed box, just need a steering column with the linkages

mite sell my lower dash which is uncut to help pay for a column

 

V8 4spd stuff won't help you, you need a HG-WB V8 3spd input shaft. The V8 4spd input shaft cover will fit as long as it is the same seal type.

 

One other thing to think about, is you can use the 3spd column setup to operate a 4spd, so it gives you 4 on the tree! They have the exact same side slectors. But you have to figure out some way to operate reverse, like a cable operated setup, and you can only use it when you put the 4spd in neutral on the column. You'd have to also disconnect the reverse swith on the column and run the 4spd reverse switch wiring down to the 4spd's reverse switch. I guess you could try a transfer case solenoid off a late model 4x4 to operate the reverse lever on the 4spd.

[snickersbar]

V8 4spd stuff won't help you, you need a HG-WB V8 3spd input shaft. The V8 4spd input shaft cover will fit as long as it is the same seal type.

 

One other thing to think about, is you can use the 3spd column setup to operate a 4spd, so it gives you 4 on the tree! They have the exact same side slectors. But you have to figure out some way to operate reverse, like a cable operated setup, and you can only use it when you put the 4spd in neutral on the column. You'd have to also disconnect the reverse swith on the column and run the 4spd reverse switch wiring down to the 4spd's reverse switch. I guess you could try a transfer case solenoid off a late model 4x4 to operate the reverse lever on the 4spd.

well the gearbox i got is out of an HR, got it for free, ill ring up some holden wrecks 2moro to price up an input shaft for it.

did think of use my 4 speed for it and useing cabe or some kind of switch too

[Uncle Chop Chop]

I saw an EH with a 4 on the tree back in 1982, it was owned by a bloke I worked with at the time. Nobody could work out where reverse was.

[TerrA LX]

^ or just put a short lever on the floor to knock it into reverse.

[Uncle Chop Chop]

das anybody has manual steering column for an LX torana going cheep in melbourne??

I'm not sure what one of those setups would be worth, but I do have one. I would only consider a trade for the bits needed to convert the car to auto. So a trimatic, converter, flexplate and some sort of shifter. An aftermarket trans cooler would be handy, as I have a manual radiator. But I can always buy one of them easy enough.

[snickersbar]

I'm not sure what one of those setups would be worth, but I do have one. I would only consider a trade for the bits needed to convert the car to auto. So a trimatic, converter, flexplate and some sort of shifter. An aftermarket trans cooler would be handy, as I have a manual radiator. But I can always buy one of them easy enough.

i dont having any auto part for trade

[Uncle Chop Chop]

That's fine, just offering a possible solution.

[Dr Terry]

well the gearbox i got is out of an HR, got it for free, 

 The box you have is a 3-sp all-synchro (M15) isn't it ? An original HR is not going to fit.

 

Dr Terry

[snickersbar]

So you can't put an V8 input shaft in to it??

 The box you have is a 3-sp all-synchro (M15) isn't it ? An original HR is not going to fit.
 
Dr Terry

[Dr Terry]

So you can't put an V8 input shaft in to it??

No, totally different box. You won't find a V8 bellhousing for it either.

 

Dr Terry 

[snickersbar]

No, totally different box. You won't find a V8 bellhousing for it either.
 
Dr Terry 

So it won't bolt on to an M20 V8 bellhousing