Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me just exactly how many of the LX SS (202ci 3.3litre) hatchbacks were made??
My car was plated 02/1976 but i want to know exactly how many were made in the 2-3 year ERA if the LX model?
Further to this id like to know how many were factory PAPAYA in colour??
This is a hard question so not sure how many people can answer it.
Thanks everyone
2/1976 torana LX SS 3.3litre hatchback - production numbers ? Anyone know ?
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 07:59 AM
No-one can answer it. There are service/warranty records out there but I doubt anyone will ever bother counting 6cyl LX's.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 08:10 AM
Im just wondering even just approximately?
I ask this because im trying to justify how an original car (2/76 lx ss hatch 3.3) can command $20,000 minimum price tags just because its original.
Some prices as high as $30,000+
I ask this because im trying to justify how an original car (2/76 lx ss hatch 3.3) can command $20,000 minimum price tags just because its original.
Some prices as high as $30,000+
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:16 AM
A really good SL hatchback will sell for really close to $20k, not just SS.
Good hatches don't come up all that often and there are people out there who are prepared to pay that.
Just remember its what it sells for, not what the buyer asks for that determins value in the open market.
There are more repair job hatchbacks for sale out there than good ones. You would spend way more than $20k repairing one.
Wait or a good one to come up and spend the money, you will not regret it at all one you have, trust me!!
Good hatches don't come up all that often and there are people out there who are prepared to pay that.
Just remember its what it sells for, not what the buyer asks for that determins value in the open market.
There are more repair job hatchbacks for sale out there than good ones. You would spend way more than $20k repairing one.
Wait or a good one to come up and spend the money, you will not regret it at all one you have, trust me!!
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:06 AM
If you want a good torana these days if its a hatchback or 4 door good cars will always command good money doesnt matter how many were built
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:06 PM
Drop a V8 in a hatch and you can name your price like this guy.
I asked him what it was a replica of he didnt reply.
http://www.ebay.com....984.m1438.l2649
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:19 PM
James are you selling yours?
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:44 PM
I would say since its got an SS badge he means its a replica SS... not tagged as such
Though... theres not alot of SS in it anyway
I don't understand why people put all the flares and scoop on and leave off the boot spoiler
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:35 PM
Ohh ok i get you.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts so a good body even if the car is not restored back to genuine will be worth good money as in $20,000+ ???
Theres alot going around that are matching number cars as in the car is a GENUINE LX SS 02/1976 pre pollution model....but have big engines in them and are total magazine quality cars as in engine, diff? Gearbox all aftermarket for drag racing. But interior is original theme and really what your paying for is the numbers on the car to say its a genuine SS LX HATCH 02/1976.
From what i read its quite rare to find a pre-pollution (02/1976) built car in a hatch LX SS?
Thanks everyone for your thoughts so a good body even if the car is not restored back to genuine will be worth good money as in $20,000+ ???
Theres alot going around that are matching number cars as in the car is a GENUINE LX SS 02/1976 pre pollution model....but have big engines in them and are total magazine quality cars as in engine, diff? Gearbox all aftermarket for drag racing. But interior is original theme and really what your paying for is the numbers on the car to say its a genuine SS LX HATCH 02/1976.
From what i read its quite rare to find a pre-pollution (02/1976) built car in a hatch LX SS?
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 04:00 PM
James mine is 2/76 but it was a 253 not a 6
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 05:09 PM
Mines 4/76
The standard rules apply
Supply and demand
They don't make them anymore and they made limited number of them
So they command higher prices than sedans
As for matching numbers... well they aren't if the engines been changed. Many have body mods for flares etc
If you really want a stock orig example you will pay a markup on it cause thats what you want
Is mine worth more TO ME because it has the right tags... no
I just wanted a hatch so I bought it
The fact it has the tags is just a bonus and not one I care too much about as mines not for sale
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 05:37 PM
Post a picture of your car james, that may give people more of an idea of what the car's value is.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:41 PM
Ok i get it so theoretically speaking LX SS hatch's are quite rare as there were not many made.
I guess for me no matter what car the TAGS do mean alot to me.
I mean if you had an opportunity to have owned an XY GT PHASE 3 original jg33 with tags.....or an XY replica that looks identical which would you pick for the same money?
Obviously the original phase 3.
End of the day the tags are the car they are the body and depict what that car was no matter if its been restored into a drag car or been restored to factory original imo.
I guess for me no matter what car the TAGS do mean alot to me.
I mean if you had an opportunity to have owned an XY GT PHASE 3 original jg33 with tags.....or an XY replica that looks identical which would you pick for the same money?
Obviously the original phase 3.
End of the day the tags are the car they are the body and depict what that car was no matter if its been restored into a drag car or been restored to factory original imo.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:55 PM
James the xy gt phase 3 did not have the same body as a normal falcon.
If you paying the same money you'd be a lunatic not to buy the original.
I am pretty sure the S,SL, and the SS hatchbacks used the same body
Is the car in question yours and you're thinking about selling or are you looking to buy?
PS: i think i read somewhere on this forum there were about 3650 6's, 600 or 800 253's and about 132 308's
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 05:37 AM
No no just wondering how it works and why im finding any SS in an LX series in hatch commands $20-30,000 minimum compared to a sedan 1/4 of that price.
Ps: thanks for the numbers big help and makes more sence now
Ps: thanks for the numbers big help and makes more sence now
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:05 PM
James 1 is a sports car the other is a taxi.
Dont quote me on the numbers
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:03 PM
James 1 is a sports car the other is a taxi.
Dont quote me on the numbers
i get you mate, so the SS hatch is desirable as i guess brock went to victory in 78 and 79 in a SS hatch therefore its highly desirable versus the sedan not really huge racing heritage you could say
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:23 PM
I believe theres some truth in that
However... any car will be more sought after for various reasons
As for the hatch
1. Its got 2 doors and the sporty model always outweighs the sedan variant
2. Its rarer due to lesser numbers sold
So in theory the hatchback will always be worth more in the eyes of many than an equivalent sedan
Regardless of any race history
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:51 PM
An even Rarer example would be a 75 model SS Hatchback...Wouldn't be many SS's that are 75's...
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Aren't there 2 or 3 hatches tagged as Lh's?
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Aren't there 2 or 3 hatches tagged as Lh's?
Thats correct ian
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:52 AM
theres a guy on gumtree selling a hatch as a project. Hes also got 75 model SS tags as a bonus to the buyer
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:30 PM
Geez 75!! That would be rare!
I understand alot more now - thanks everyone
I understand alot more now - thanks everyone
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Hi James, I think Papaya was one of the most popular colors on the SS as it was the hero color.
My opinion is that a SS is as close as you can get to the A9X hatch without being a A9X hatch, which is the most desireable Holden ever made, so that effects the price. They also only made 8000 or so hatches, which is a heap less than any of the other coupes except for VH, VJ Valiant hardtops.
I would also pay a premium for a original SS as how ever many were made, there are not many good ones left. I would say there are probably only 200 if that left without fairs with matching numbers that I believe are SS hatches. Even half the restored ones would be tag jobs, I have seen heaps of cars in need of restoration with SS tags but to many things are not right. Then someone buys it restore it and another one is around, and you can not tell the new owner as it has the tags and a verification letter from Holden.
In my 10 years of looking at almost every advertised SS there would be lucky to be 20 I would have considered and I have still not found what I am after, as the good ones are never for sale.
They also never made S hatches and the phase 3 dose have the same body as a XY Falcon which someone said it didn't in a post above, Cheers Aaron
My opinion is that a SS is as close as you can get to the A9X hatch without being a A9X hatch, which is the most desireable Holden ever made, so that effects the price. They also only made 8000 or so hatches, which is a heap less than any of the other coupes except for VH, VJ Valiant hardtops.
I would also pay a premium for a original SS as how ever many were made, there are not many good ones left. I would say there are probably only 200 if that left without fairs with matching numbers that I believe are SS hatches. Even half the restored ones would be tag jobs, I have seen heaps of cars in need of restoration with SS tags but to many things are not right. Then someone buys it restore it and another one is around, and you can not tell the new owner as it has the tags and a verification letter from Holden.
In my 10 years of looking at almost every advertised SS there would be lucky to be 20 I would have considered and I have still not found what I am after, as the good ones are never for sale.
They also never made S hatches and the phase 3 dose have the same body as a XY Falcon which someone said it didn't in a post above, Cheers Aaron
Edited by imj411, 08 October 2013 - 11:55 PM.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:38 AM
Aaron i said the phase 3 is not the same body as the normal falcon.
Next you'll be telling James the A9X had the same body as an SS
Aaron for your future reference there was only 588 LE coupes made
If after 10 years of searching you havent found what you are after maybe you should stop looking or maybe come up with more cash
A9X was an option on the SLR5000 and the 5 litre SS only
PS: Aaron ....Welby has an original SS for sale
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