let us know.
http://www.redlineoi...asp#waterwetter
their ad reads in SM "forget the technical information...."
avliable from all leading auto stores.
Edited by ALX76, 04 July 2006 - 08:13 PM.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 08:11 PM
have you used this product, or are you willing to try it out.
let us know.
http://www.redlineoi...asp#waterwetter
their ad reads in SM "forget the technical information...."
avliable from all leading auto stores.
let us know.
http://www.redlineoi...asp#waterwetter
their ad reads in SM "forget the technical information...."
avliable from all leading auto stores.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 08:40 PM
As in the one used for shampoo and facial cleansers?Water wetter is a surfactant agent
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:00 PM
We sell a fair bit of it at work
Never used it myself but plenty do
Never used it myself but plenty do
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:27 PM
YupAs in the one used for shampoo and facial cleansers?Water wetter is a surfactant agent
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makes water wetter.Cheers
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:29 PM
You can read all the product info, and one would consider it is very factual. However, you'll notice everything is compared with 50/50 glycol water mixes..........which increases the running temp of a system. They are relying on the average person not picking this up.
Check out http://www.engineeri...ycol-d_146.html
youll see t the relative heat capacity of glycol compared to water at different temps and concentrations.
A 50/50% mix has a 14% reduction in heat capacity, whereas mixes of less than 20%(more typical) have only ~5% reduction in heat capacity.
Glycol provides similar reduction in the surface tension they talk about and also reduces nucleate boiling since the boiling temp is also raised by the addition of relatively low amounts of glycol.
Water wetter is basically only of value if you must run the engine at temps near boiling pt without glycol.
Check out http://www.engineeri...ycol-d_146.html
youll see t the relative heat capacity of glycol compared to water at different temps and concentrations.
A 50/50% mix has a 14% reduction in heat capacity, whereas mixes of less than 20%(more typical) have only ~5% reduction in heat capacity.
Glycol provides similar reduction in the surface tension they talk about and also reduces nucleate boiling since the boiling temp is also raised by the addition of relatively low amounts of glycol.
Water wetter is basically only of value if you must run the engine at temps near boiling pt without glycol.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:42 PM
A bit of useless information on glycol as mentioned above...
Used illegaly to make wine sweeter
Black book of useless information is something everyone should carry LOL
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Used illegaly to make wine sweeter
Black book of useless information is something everyone should carry LOL
Cheers
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:43 PM
^ i assume then that if i got a V8 that runs hot and never goes to the snow ( under 0 deg) then i should ditch normal green coolant and go with the pink.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:48 PM
Id be thinking it would be probably line ball with a 10% antifreeze mix, and would go on which works out cheapest. Im guessning the redline stuff is boutique priced.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:54 PM
I have used this product before with great success, if used to treat certain problems. In 308's with heavily ported heads or 060 overbores that suffer from steam causing hotspots in the cooling system it will allow the engine to run cooler.
If you don't want to spend that money and wish to see if it will work then add some non foaming detergent to your cooling system. Same result, just a bit messier !!!
If you don't want to spend that money and wish to see if it will work then add some non foaming detergent to your cooling system. Same result, just a bit messier !!!
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Posted 05 July 2006 - 12:43 AM
i have used it, i used it at spring car nats and was able to let the car idle for 45 mins after a pass and it didnt get any where near hot, yet at easter nats the bloody thing just about blew its lid and i didnt have any in it at that time. in my opinion it does help significantly.
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Posted 05 July 2006 - 11:52 AM
as Herne and Struggler mentioned, its a surfactant, it breaks the surface tension of the water.
ALX, I dont run a Glycol type coolant, I run the anti corrosion stuff as my car will never see the snow ect
ALX, I dont run a Glycol type coolant, I run the anti corrosion stuff as my car will never see the snow ect
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Posted 05 July 2006 - 12:41 PM
I like a couple of others above ^ have used it and it does help.
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 03:19 PM
People say it works.....but it doesnt make much sense to me.
If its better at making contact with troublesome hotspots in the cylinder head and removes heat from the metal to the water why doesn't this show up as an increase in temp of the water and a decrease in temp of the head?(and who actually measures the temp of the head rather than the water in the cyl head). Their literature makes no claims about how it might be able to create extra cooling through the radiator when temps are not near boiling either.
Its advantages are stressed over 50/50 glycol/water mixes, not commercially available antifreezes, I dont think anyone actually puts straight glycol in their motors. Most antifreezes from the reputable companies include a wetting agent as well.
If anyone knows of some objective independent testing please let us know.
If its better at making contact with troublesome hotspots in the cylinder head and removes heat from the metal to the water why doesn't this show up as an increase in temp of the water and a decrease in temp of the head?(and who actually measures the temp of the head rather than the water in the cyl head). Their literature makes no claims about how it might be able to create extra cooling through the radiator when temps are not near boiling either.
Its advantages are stressed over 50/50 glycol/water mixes, not commercially available antifreezes, I dont think anyone actually puts straight glycol in their motors. Most antifreezes from the reputable companies include a wetting agent as well.
If anyone knows of some objective independent testing please let us know.
Edited by devilsadvocate, 07 July 2006 - 03:31 PM.
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 06:53 PM
I have it in my torry at the moment. It does help. I have a 202, 60 thou oversize bore 
and it has not cured cooling issues but it has helped 
. My engine still gets hot but the water water seems to buy me time.
and it has not cured cooling issues but it has helped . My engine still gets hot but the water water seems to buy me time.
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