Where are the gas wells ?
Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:28 PM
Where are the gas wells ?
Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:15 PM
People winge and bitch when you burn coal to get energy.
People winge and bitch when you burn petrolium/diesel products to get energy.
Now all there doing is winging and bitching when we use CSG.
If you dont like it, go off the grid.
Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:33 PM
Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:44 PM
There was a story a while back where the farmers with the wells on their properties welcomed them.
And of the course the money.
Most of the people I have come across whinging about CSG are from areas where they wont be affected anyway.
And when you ask them about it they actually have very little idea.
Talked to a Greens candidate for the election coming up.
They had just had an article in a local paper saying that all the coal mines in the area would close because they wanted 100% renewable energy.
What they failed to realise was that the coal mines they were talking about are metallurgical coal not thermal.
Asked them for their alternative to that.
Asked them about the local power station how it would go with no CSG.
It apparently wont affect that power station as it doesnt run on coal or CSG.
There are 94 x 1MW V16 Cat Generators running off CSG at this power station.
But the gas is extracted underground.
Their theories on 24/7 renewable energy are just that.
They have no idea at all what it entails, and the fact that it is currently impossible.
Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:50 PM
Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:17 PM
Posted 22 March 2015 - 07:32 PM
People winge and bitch when you burn coal to get energy.
People winge and bitch when you burn petrolium/diesel products to get energy.
Now all there doing is winging and bitching when we use CSG.
If you dont like it, go off the grid.
Posted 22 March 2015 - 07:48 PM
^^^^^ well said lakeside............ for most ignorance is bliss.............
each to there own...... make your own mind up..... CSG out the back of bucm frOck who care's in prime farming land... I frOcking care, and I think you should too....
Posted 22 March 2015 - 08:19 PM
Another selective view of the world Ian
Posted 22 March 2015 - 08:36 PM
Common sense I would of thought Rob........... nothing more.
Posted 22 March 2015 - 09:01 PM
But what about the farmers with wells on their prime farming land that support it?
Why dont you consider their point of view?
Posted 22 March 2015 - 09:43 PM
Posted 22 March 2015 - 10:02 PM
But what about the farmers with wells on their prime farming land that support it?
Why dont you consider their point of view?
Please Rob, explain me their point of view......... I would really like to hear it,
Posted 22 March 2015 - 10:28 PM
They are happy with it.
No water issues.
Can still use the land around it.
Income stream
Thats a small part of it.
But loonies will always go for the negative.
A lot of the so called symptoms seem strange that keep being thrown about. Bleeding noses and such.
How come miners working in similar if not worse environments dont display the same symptoms?
Only one side of it is being publicised.
Which is typical of so called journalists today.
Posted 22 March 2015 - 10:31 PM
Actually Ian this is so unlike you.
You are usually the one who delves into issues to disprove populist media views.
Why not do your digging on this issue?
Scared of finding the truth?
Posted 22 March 2015 - 11:40 PM
Posted 23 March 2015 - 12:26 AM
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:06 PM
What is wrong with CSG ?,if farmers can make a $ or 2 then why not,double income from farming and a small hole in the ground.
If the water displaced during the process can be used to farm crops in a "dryer" area that would surely be an incentive for the primary producers in the country to keep some "local production" in the country,crops all year round,locally produced and grown along with a clean form of fuel to keep the lights on?
Fracking has been around a long time,as has coal gas,,supposedly people used to produce coal gas from coal during the depression
to run things?
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:25 PM
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:33 PM
THis is a concern certainly, although nothing that cant happen with a reasonable earthquake.
There is a very, very long list of procedures and guidelines for drilling through the basin to get to the gas seams. Yes frOckups do happen, but there rare, and its really nothing nature cant do itself if it so chooses.
Kinda like everyone moaning and groaning about carbon emissions out of vehicle exhaust pipes, then going real quiet when a volcano erupts and puts out more CO2 than every vehicle on the planet cant manage in 20 years in about 15 minutes....
Cheers.
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:40 PM
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:43 PM
Actually Ian this is so unlike you.
You are usually the one who delves into issues to disprove populist media views.
Why not do your digging on this issue?
Scared of finding the truth?
Hey Rob, thanks, I think ..... I will take that as a compliment, and you are right. I have friends that are involved in the Gloucester CSG protests, and I guess, i have taken their side, over researching the issue fully...... but I will.... But I must say, when I hear statistics, that indicate, just how many could suffer, for the benefit of a rich few, and at the end of the day, this is all about money & profits form our land again.... And from what I understand, NSW has enough GAS to last Australia, for 400 years, But there's money to be made out of our resources, so again, we are selling the farm to the multi-nationals, so they can make billions. And we've all see how much Australia benefited from the last resorse boom, with the billions made out of Iron ore & Coal, how much of that money flowed back to improving Australia's standards of living. How can Mining Companies have the availability of free water, while farmers have to pay for there's. The valid points of your argument, also applies to farmers, who are also providing a product, just the other side of the pancake, I guess.... And lets not forget, in the case of a catastrofe, the consequences seem to well out way the benefit's, no matter how remote the chance are. Any way, I will look deeper, if you will, or are you already sure that the Multi Nationals, who are making billions out of our land, aren't lying?? I f so, I think you are very trusting... cheers mate.. Ian
Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:56 PM
I reckon the problem is adequate policing of the procedures, DJ.
A rare frOckup does not mean it is an insignificant frOckup.
As usual you are correct. Suppose which side of the fence you sit on dictates which way you look at it...I like to drive my car, and although i wasnt happy about the BP oil spill of a few years ago, that is what happens from time to time, and without the potential risk of something like that happening I wont be able to drive my car......
Posted 23 March 2015 - 06:00 PM
Are your friends in Gloucester the land owners?
As I have stated in one of my previous posts, the majority of people who are protesting have no idea of the process.
They are jumping on a band wagon and have no idea where it is heading.
Posted 23 March 2015 - 06:03 PM
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