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Spotting a restamped LC, LJ engine block

Started by _Skapinad_ , Dec 15 2015 03:25 PM

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#1 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 03:25 PM

With the high value being handed over for cars with apparent matching numbers and even bare blocks, thought it might be worthwhile starting a thread on how to spot a re stamped block. Obviously the first port of call is the cast date... but even that aligning is no guarantee...

Likely this will only apply to JP's, NP's, CK's etc... the higher value blocks....

I have accumulated at least 40 JP engine pics from various sale sites and even this site over the years.... so out of them, these are my pics for restamped numbers.

I have blanked out a couple of digits to save shit fights, please do the same if you have any obvious one's to post

JP1550XX - restamp.jpg 39.54K 18 downloads

JP1943XX - restamp.jpg 61.76K 12 downloads

JP2430XX - restamp.jpg 79.65K 11 downloads

JP3281XX - restamp.jpg 113.35K 14 downloads

JP36044X - restamp.jpg 67.9K 12 downloads

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#2 IMORAL

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 03:27 PM

Why not post a genuine one so people know what they are looking for?

Or do you only have dodgey pics ?

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#3 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 03:30 PM

I have plenty that I believe are genuine... but I cannot confirm cast dates so not posting them

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 03:33 PM

Well this post is useless then.......Admin please delete

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#5 yel327

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 04:35 PM

Skap

That one old Fly posted up in the sh!tfight thread that he sold to you, did you keep that picture? It looked real from memory.

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#6 _ChaosWeaver_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 05:52 PM

I'm far from an expert...... but I think the first two look suss ..... not sure about the next two as I can't see anything wrong... and the next after them two looks suss again..... but , I am just guessing .......

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#7 wot179

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:06 PM

Wrong font on 3 and too close together on 4, Chaos.

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#8 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:10 PM

They are all restamps !

Yep I kept that pic Yel... It used to be mine. I'll post it tomorrow

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:16 PM

No shit.
Just responding to Chaos's confusion.

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#10 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:31 PM

No shit.Just responding to Chaos's confusion.

Whoops, so was I , bit slow...

Another one:

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#11 Ice

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:50 PM

So what your saying is there is a lot of suckers out there

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#12 _LS1 Taxi_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 06:52 PM

Even the factory ones aren't perfect but they're definitely not as shit as some of the examples above.

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#13 yel327

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:07 PM

At lest with V8's there is an excuse why the number has gone and the original has been restamped. There is no excuse for a 6cyl, 100% fraud rate! Personally I don't have an issue with putting your original number onto an engine, but only if you ever sell it you tell the truth. Trouble is too many scumbags out there, and too many gullible people to match.

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#14 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:15 PM

At lest with V8's there is an excuse why the number has gone and the original has been restamped. There is no excuse for a 6cyl, 100% fraud rate! Personally I don't have an issue with putting your original number onto an engine, but only if you ever sell it you tell the truth. Trouble is too many scumbags out there, and too many gullible people to match.

Not sure about gullible.... When I purchased an Xu-1 in 07 I had no idea...

I wanted an XU-1, so I bought one.

Font size, pad depth or finish I had no clue... And likely some sellers who had them for ages ,cashing in had no idea either...

Scumbags are the only ones that frOck it up...

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:18 PM

Not sure about gullible.... When I purchased an Xu-1 in 07 I had no idea...

I wanted an XU-1, so I bought one.

Font size, pad depth or finish I had no clue... And likely some sellers who had them for ages ,cashing in had no idea either...

Scumbags are the only ones that frOck it up...

Well I'll be #@$^%&. You actually owned a Torana? :lol:

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#16 Ice

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:24 PM

Well I'll be #@$^%&. You actually owned a Torana?

Big like fir you Daz

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#17 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:30 PM

Well I'll be #@$^%&. You actually owned a Torana?

Yes, a proper one with the correct number of doors

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#18 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:32 PM

Big like fir you Daz

Go and update the sandman thread mate, more pics in this thread in one day !! Lol

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:34 PM

Yes, a proper one with the correct number of doors

Ooo thems fighting words

Go and update the sandman thread mate, more pics in this thread in one day !! Lol

Go and buy a car ya tight Cunning Stunt you will die one day

At least i got a thread

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#20 _LS1 Taxi_

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:38 PM

Lololololololol

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#21 yel327

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Posted 15 December 2015 - 07:42 PM

Not sure about gullible.... When I purchased an Xu-1 in 07 I had no idea...

I wanted an XU-1, so I bought one.

Font size, pad depth or finish I had no clue... And likely some sellers who had them for ages ,cashing in had no idea either...

Scumbags are the only ones that frOck it up...

Gullible might be the wrong word for 2007, today though if you pay the sort of asking $ without doing homework it probably is the rigjt word. Especially if you listen to the charlatans that hang around them, but then maybe victim is a better fit!

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#22 _Skapinad_

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:44 AM

The cast date on this one aligned with the engine number....

JP221395.jpg 370.59K 66 downloads

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#23 yel327

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:48 AM

From how I understand it those are broach marks that you see running side to side on the engine number pad from a linear broaching machine. The fakers will probably be using a mill or surface grinder hence why all the numbers in their photos are painted.