You old bugger lol
Yeah, I bought my LJ in 1980. Bruce was probably still riding his skateboard to school.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 01:29 PM
You old bugger lol
Yeah, I bought my LJ in 1980. Bruce was probably still riding his skateboard to school.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 01:31 PM
Yeah, I bought my LJ in 1980. Bruce was probably still riding his skateboard to school.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 01:37 PM
If you think its fine for some 1973 Bathurst homologation specials from JP363 to have a special dual cast block and others to have a HQ block, KEEP DREAMING.......
The dual date coded blocks are the normal blocks. That is why they are on QL and QD and whatever else they are on. The 150 list engines are the special ones, GMH says so and that is enough. You can make up all the BS in the world you like but it cannot change history and simple facts. Simple. Yes CAMS made certain rules but very often they weren't complied with. Show me the 250 XC coupes with big rear wheel arches. Show me the 250 LJ XU1's with 2.78:1 rear axles. Just to name a few. Even in GroupA era the required totals weren't made in some instances.
You need to stop crying restamp at genuine, original engines that don't fit into your twisted theories or for whatever reason you are trying to cover up something. They don't all have 3 on the side, at least some 150 list engines only have one date code. Owners of these cars with their original engines have shown plenty of evidence of this, I've heard that there were a lot of very original cars at the Nationals with their original JP engines without a 3 - there is enough proof right there.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 01:55 PM
I've heard that there were a lot of very original cars at the Nationals with their original JP engines without a 3 - there is enough proof right there.
Yes, and some of those numbers have not yet been found on a QL or JL block. Also found an original JL block with a 3 on the side, if my eyes didn't deceive me.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 02:26 PM
skap after reading this thread I remember why I havnt been on this forum for a long time..
to answer your question with my opinion is the ADR tag is the least important part, its numbers on the inner guard and rego papers, the engine and front tags matter. and aslong as the chassis number is a match.
there for its ALL numbers matching, just missing a tag that only shows month build and chassis number and adr numbers
Edited by gtr-xu1, 27 March 2016 - 02:28 PM.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 05:02 PM
I wish to Christ I stayed well away to.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 05:41 PM
THen why dont you either put up some actual proof of your outlandish theory, or just frOck right off and let all of us sit around in uninformed bliss.....
Posted 27 March 2016 - 05:56 PM
THen why dont you either put up some actual proof of your outlandish theory, or just frOck right off and let all of us sit around in uninformed bliss.....
Posted 27 March 2016 - 06:17 PM
That is the sound of nail hit on head .............. lol ..
Posted 27 March 2016 - 07:44 PM
THen why dont you either put up some actual proof of your outlandish theory, or just frOck right off and let all of us sit around in uninformed bliss.....
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:06 PM
Sounds to me like 2 fools protecting their investments and realizing that they have been conned due to there lack of knowledge
Made me laugh, but is the painfull truth
LOL
A fool and his money
LOL
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:12 PM
And bomber all the proof you will ever need are in genuine XU-1,s with there genuine blocks, that's all the proof you need.........
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:21 PM
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:25 PM
Another fool and his money
At least your cars genuine.......
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:42 PM
Hey, my Toranas genuine.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:56 PM
Another fool and his money
This response is typical. Suggesting that another forum member's engine is not legit when all the evidence says that it is 100% and that every credible long standing forum member has endorsed really needs to be stopped. It is slanderous and in other situations would result in legal action. l seriously think you three need to stop posting on this site. And again I request that the moderators ban you.
At least your cars genuine.......
Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:52 PM
To complete a homologation required 500, to allow the homologation to take place required 250, then cease production.
In that case you should be able to tell us all how GM-H got CAMS to rubber stamp amendment 8/8e and only produce 100 cars and then rubber stamp amendment 9/2e and only produce 150 cars give or take.
Two amendments at 500 cars per amendment = 1000 cars.
Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:47 PM
You forgot homologations 6 7 and 10
Homologation 7 never required homologation as these were free under the Group C rules
Gearbox and diff ratios required 250 per ratio.
6 required 750
7 free
8 required 500
9 required 500
10 required 750
2500 cars if completed
250 if production ceases
To allow any homologation to take place in 1973 a minimum of 250 were required to have either been BUILT or SOLD.
If GMH had orders placed for 250+ cars are these cars then deemed as being sold even if not built yet ?
Ring or write to CAMS, they will tell you........
Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:26 AM
... around and around it goes. The 3 Amigos putting up their crazy theory that all xu1s are stamped with 3 and that all 73 Bathurst models have a dual cast date and that there were 250 1973 Bathurst specials. And evertime someone presents With a JP or earlier Xu1 motor without 3 on it they say it is restamp - pathetic. Everytime a 1973 150 list engine motor with only one cast date it is restamp - pathetic!. Everytime someone points out that there is only 150 Bathurst engines officially recognised by GMH then that person needs to go to CAMS for more research - pathetic! Strike 3. Give it up you three troubled Amigos! Noone takes you seriously and all you are doing is trying to discredit the XU1 brand. You are a disgrace to the marque and should be banned from these forums.
My vote for best post of the year .
Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:43 AM
That 150 List says High Performance Engines, not Bathurst Engines, Just Saying
Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:44 AM
So in 1973 some things had to be homologated and some not, otherwise, GMH would've had to produce 250 cars with 58mm Webers. just trying to get my head around all of this. Never realised there was so much passion with the XU1. At the nats on Saturday one bloke,with a white LJ XU1, pointed out that a battery tray was wrong and another LJ XU1 had the wrong door trims, they were GTR door trims. Starting to like the real ones and the passion that goes with them.
regards
Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:35 AM
So in 1973 some things had to be homologated and some not, otherwise, GMH would've had to produce 250 cars with 58mm Webers. just trying to get my head around all of this. Never realised there was so much passion with the XU1. At the nats on Saturday one bloke,with a white LJ XU1, pointed out that a battery tray was wrong and another LJ XU1 had the wrong door trims, they were GTR door trims. Starting to like the real ones and the passion that goes with them.
regards
To homologate a new part it was 500 Cars in 1973, but due to the LJ was ending production and CAMS new that it was 250 to Homo a new part, Some things were free in 1973 that did not need to be Homo, Springs and Shocks were free and the Cam for the donk, the 58mm Webers (My guess Carbies were free) as there is not 250 LJ's in 1973 with 58mm Webers on them.
Amazing at the Nationals that a Car had the wrong door trims, but then again to buy new door trims are not cheap, as the Cars are 40 plus years old some parts have been changed due to old parts worn out and get replaced what a owner can find and it gets down to costs we would assume for some owners.
Posted 28 March 2016 - 07:40 AM
You forgot homologations 6 7 and 10
Homologation 7 never required homologation as these were free under the Group C rules
Gearbox and diff ratios required 250 per ratio.
6 required 750
7
freeNOT VALID8 required 500
9 required 500
10 required 750
2500 cars if completed
250 if production ceases
To allow any homologation to take place in 1973 a minimum of 250 were required to have either been BUILT or SOLD.
If GMH had orders placed for 250+ cars are these cars then deemed as being sold even if not built yet ?
Ring or write to CAMS, they will tell you........
Yeah I was the one that brought the 'made and or sold' bit in the rules to you blokes attention about 3 years ago. Before that you didn't have a fuking clue.
Edited by S pack, 28 March 2016 - 07:41 AM.
Posted 28 March 2016 - 10:02 AM
That 150 List says High Performance Engines, not Bathurst Engines, Just Saying
The GM-H documentation says Revised Torana XU-1 high Performance engines Al.
Interesting to note there is no mention anywhere of a new cylinder and case assy or a complete new engine,
Edited by S pack, 28 March 2016 - 10:03 AM.
Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:40 PM
The GM-H documentation says Revised Torana XU-1 high Performance engines Al.
Interesting to note there is no mention anywhere of a new cylinder and case assy or a complete new engine,
Revised: synonyms amend,emend,correct,alter,change,adapt,edit.rewrite,RECAST,rework,revamp.
Cheers
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