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#151 N/A-PWR

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 05:58 PM

Must say the GMH-ɐuɐɹoʇ plant had a special parts department,

 

so the changes must be secret.  :furious:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 06:05 PM

Must say the GMH plant had a special parts department,

 

so the changes must be secret.  :furious:

 

Well HDT wouldn't be telling the other teams any new Secret Squirrel item like a Stronger and lighter Engine Block if there was one.
 



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 06:17 PM

Super testing needed

 

Maybe someone that has a Dual Cast dated JP Engine, takes it and gets it tested to see if its made of the thicker SG iron

(Sperodial Graphite Iron) but that gets down to costs etc and someone having a Donk.



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 06:31 PM

If we could get our hands on some of these blocks and people are prepared to put their money where their mouth is then it should be possible to take measurements and make the necessary inspections to prove if they are in fact special or not, correct? Look for the changes as listed in the email earlier in this thread.

 

It would be good to know. However it cannot change the fact that not all 150 list engines have the second date code, and that is what the clowns are trying to say. So it would prove nothing.
 



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:08 PM

Was just thinking.... Bruce used to own an 8/72 ?

Now I realise the passion in that massive "what is a 72 Bathurst" thread... If it's still around...,

All makes sense... You cannot change the truth to suit your agenda Bruce...

Post a pic of your NP please....

Post a pic of your stamping please Crabba?

And while we are at it, Xu-1 rat , post a pic of yours... Please.

If not piss off, you lot look dumber with each post you make....

I call restamps on all 3.

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:19 PM

It would be good to know. However it cannot change the fact that not all 150 list engines have the second date code, and that is what the clowns are trying to say. So it would prove nothing.
 

Mr yel the proof will be when a 150 listed single cast block is for sale next the price will be 0 or if on ebay no bids



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:27 PM

What are the cast dates of the non dual date 150 list engines?
Could it be that once the changes being tested on the dual date blocks was completed they stopped adding the second date code. Perhaps these dual date blocks were fitted in various sizes and vehicles to get real world testing in a variety of circumstances?

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Employee A used one code and employee B used two as a method to identify who did what. We put our initials on our work where I work and then if there's a problem you know who to talk to about it.

Or

Are dual cast date blocks cast in the morning and others in the afternoon or vice versa and they wanted to compare the effect different temperatures whilst the blocks cooled, it was winter.

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:47 PM

All makes as much sense as anything else being put forward here James ...... except the last one... thats what the clock dial stamp is for ....  

 

You can say what you want, but without any proof to back any of it up.... it's worth nothing ...   

 

Bruce, Crabba and Rat ....  no offence Rat, just don't know your name.....

 

I ask again.... where is the official reference to a Dual Cast Motor...

 

As GMH made available a list of 150 JP engines, and they (GMH) named these engines as being the special ones.

 

They (GMH) made no mention of Dual Cast JP engine ???  ...........  but note, they (GMH) did release the 150 JP engine list.

 

The JP engine was only released in 202, and only available for XU-1.

 

The Dual date cast engine comes in 173 and 202, but dual cast does not have any none link to XU-1 in any form..

 

So as I said before......  Way too many holes in your story, for me to take it seriously.....  yet..   Ian ...



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:48 PM

Long live the 1973 Bathurst DUAL CAST block ( 250 )

 

and remember to look for that number 3 on all genuine JP's........

 

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:49 PM

Thread closed



unless proof is added 



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 07:56 PM

Long live the 1973 Bathurst DUAL CAST block ( 250 )

 

and remember to look for that number 3 on all genuine JP's........

 

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In your dreams F*** W***, in your dreams.



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 08:22 PM

all good stuff, interesting reading.

 

I have an Aus. $50 note, but you ned to know,  its a special one. Its worth $100 dollars.

 

I know this, but you dont.

 I have no proof. No documentation.

 

Do you want to buy it for $100?

 

No offence, bit is this where this thread is at?



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 08:34 PM

Mr yel the proof will be when a 150 listed single cast block is for sale next the price will be 0 or if on ebay no bids

 

Why is that proof? Are one of you going to make up a fake one to make it happen? I think the proof will be when the NSW or Vic Police start nabbing a few fakers and we'll see which cars are left standing. I know a few cars that are odds on favourites to be left standing, including a few that have been with their owners since the 70's and most of those do not have a second date code.

 

I'll say it again. NOT ALL 150 LIST ENGINES HAVE A SECOND DATE CODE. This is the only fact that really matters in the end.
 



Bruce, Crabba and Rat ....  no offence Rat, just don't know your name.....

 

Rob.
 



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 08:39 PM

JEEeesssuuusss What a shitfight....



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 08:57 PM

JEEeesssuuusss What a shitfight....

 

But interesting nonetheless. Better than anything that's been on TV lately.



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 09:30 PM

NOT ALL 150 LIST ENGINES HAVE A SECOND DATE CODE. This is the only fact that really matters in the end.

^^^ Agree.



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 10:12 PM

Byron are you under investigation

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 11:17 PM

Only for some sandmans and a couple of HK Monaro,s.

 

Good to see your back to normal, Davey my boy.......



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 11:48 PM

Only for some sandmans and a couple of HK Monaro,s.

 

Good to see your back to normal, Davey my boy.......

Piss off ya pervert.



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 06:10 AM

Byron are you under investigation

 

As stated in another thread, once they cannot win an argument they resort to trying to undermine your credibility by acting as keyboard warriors.

 

To the general gmh-torana people that aren't one of this mob of cretins the answer is no, but I have suspicions that a few of the clowns may be, and once again their own actions are being attempted to be deflected onto others.
 



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 06:13 AM

Only for some sandmans and a couple of HK Monaro,s.

 

Good to see your back to normal, Davey my boy.......

 

Bruce, have you not yet learned? That is actually bordering on slander and despite you being warned about such actions it also just shows you up further for the liar and fabricator that you are.



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 06:36 AM

Well gents, all I can say is that I am so happy I don't own a genuine XU-1.  Appears that if you do you become paranoid about whether or not it has this stamp or this mark.  I guess you are also so scared to do any modifications/repairs to it in case it renders it "un-original".  Not exactly what I want out of my car, just to get it back on the road and enjoy it.

 

Hope you guys find some happy compromise otherwise it will eat away at you and I feel sorry for all involved.  Life's too short.  Cheers Ron



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 06:52 AM

Piss off ya pervert.

and thats what exactly what rocky is..a pervert..i made a complaint to police of his behaviour towards my then 12 year old daughter,,

anyone keen to hear what he did at my place ??



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 07:23 AM

Well before this thread gets locked and gone for good ....   It would seem it has wound it's way to it's end, and now has just become a platform to hang shit...

It is a shame, because for a while there, right back at the start, I thought you may of found some new information, much like Al had done with the V8 prototype's.

 

But no..  The Dual Cast Date topic has been going for months, with a few threads being closed down already.  And yet in all that time, no proof has ever been put forward, except for a very dubious Email at best ...     With no further evidence of the JP Dual Cast's coming forward, its has just become silly ....

 

I started this thread for member's to show any photo's of their Dual Date Cast Motors.....   of all the member,  Only Anthony posted a picture, and while pictures of something like this from both sides of a motor is not proof in it's self, at least he showed them...

 

I myself believe,  from all of this information.     is what Byron has been saying all along, and that is...... "Dual Cast Date JP's may exist, they may even be in the 150 list of special motors"...   And my own thoughts on the extra date,  is it is nothing more than an Identification marking for Manufacturing QA purposes, and possibly nothing more ....   

 

PS...   I think we all need to think before pressing the Post Button......  as this could get ugly if it keeps going..  It's one thing to call someone "Bill & Ben" or the "Three Muskateers" or even "frOck Wits" ....   But to allege illegal activities is going to far IMO..   cheers Ian



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 07:37 AM

Ian
My only involement is make sure wrong info doesnt become fact. Simply to protect known original cars. As for the motivation of these others, we only can guess, but I 'm pretty sure I can guess pretty close to the mark. The personal attacks simply display the character of those individuals, grasping at air.




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