Are they stronger than banjo..no smarty comments kids.
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10 Bolt is Salisbury? Yes?
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:50 PM
Yes they are
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:52 PM
Big salisbury from hq/z etc are stronger. the Uc torana (small) salisbury is only marginally stronger.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 07:29 PM
This is out of a 1 tonner so I am guessing it is the big one.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 07:30 PM
The 10 Bolt Salisbury can be very strong, a lot depends on who sets it up and how.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 07:35 PM
It would work good for the V8 LC and a locker diff would be easier to find.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 07:58 PM
i recon the quite abit stronger, loads of people say there the same as banjo, i recon there jelous there torries dont have them haha
iv flogged the shit out of one, now its in my gf's v8 uc, and its been in a skid comp, and gets flogged heaps, still going good
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iv flogged the shit out of one, now its in my gf's v8 uc, and its been in a skid comp, and gets flogged heaps, still going good
nathan,
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 08:20 PM
go and fit a bw if your thinking of changing the banjo reason is i had a salisbury in mine in the begin and broke it three times and then went to a bw not a problem since.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 08:58 PM
A Borg Warner is certainly a cheaper option than a 10 bolt and parts for 10 bolts are not cheap either.
BW seems to be the way to go these days and if I were to be looking for a low budget diff a BW is what I would be looking at.
Then again if money was no object I would have a Ford 9" set up properly in preference to them all.
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BW seems to be the way to go these days and if I were to be looking for a low budget diff a BW is what I would be looking at.
Then again if money was no object I would have a Ford 9" set up properly in preference to them all.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 10:28 PM
10 bolt salisbury are strong but behind a good 308+ it will take its toll because of the torque at low revs.
Behind a turbo , six they are brillant unless of course yuo using a transbrake where it makes no diff what engine combo you running lol.
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Behind a turbo , six they are brillant unless of course yuo using a transbrake where it makes no diff what engine combo you running lol.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 11:05 PM
go a borg warner with 28 spline axles and mini spool 
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 11:09 PM
the actuall nick name 10 bolt come from the chev family of the 12 and 10 bolt diffs and named such as they have 12 and 10 bolts respectivley that hold the crown to the center.
so to get technical a 10 bolt is a chev diff and a salsbury adopted the name for its similar looks.
so to get technical a 10 bolt is a chev diff and a salsbury adopted the name for its similar looks.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 11:43 PM
Ofcourse it will be stronger than the banjo but it would be easier to use a b/w for parts availability over the salisbury.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 11:45 PM
The BW you guys are talking about I am guessing is the one in the VL Turbo type model?
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 12:42 AM
Just another consideration Rory, is those salsbury's are bloody heavy, and would be a real shame to weight down that nimble looking little car of yours. Borg Warner for sure,
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 06:10 AM
you can get a b/w out of vn to vs v8 commodore.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 11:18 AM
I will second that the 10 bolts are heavy. they seem pretty strong though
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 01:37 PM
Yeah R
The VL or even a VN diff BW (vn diffs are cheaper) and spools are also available
10 bolts are too heavy and not a real great improvement
Ford 9 inches are way too heavy to much power loss
Then you just have to find someone to do the conversion with out stuffing it up
The VL or even a VN diff BW (vn diffs are cheaper) and spools are also available
10 bolts are too heavy and not a real great improvement
Ford 9 inches are way too heavy to much power loss
Then you just have to find someone to do the conversion with out stuffing it up
Edited by gtr-xu1, 08 August 2006 - 01:38 PM.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 05:43 PM
The one tonner diffs ran different yokes too! we fitted one to a mates HQ van a few years back and no one noticed until we went to fit the tailshaft, the one tonner ran a bigger yoke from memory, but certainly stronger then a banjo.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 06:48 PM
another problem with the 10 bolt is the ratios. most common ones are 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 4.44. most people want 3.70, 3.9, 4.11's witch arre'nt available in 10 bolts, so i would go for the b/w option. spools & gear selection are alot easier to get hold of, & cheaper too!
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:53 AM
Salsbury's get bigger axles, but the bits that matter inside are the same as Banjos. Tonner centres are stronger than std ones, and you get a better spread of ratios with the Salisbury.
You can use the Banjo Crown wheels etc, to make up the 2.78, 3.9 and 4.11s........
Easier to change a Banjo centre tho, hehehe.
BW is the way to go the VL Turbo and VN being identical.
And you can take the brakes you get with it too.
Grant..
You can use the Banjo Crown wheels etc, to make up the 2.78, 3.9 and 4.11s........
Easier to change a Banjo centre tho, hehehe.
BW is the way to go the VL Turbo and VN being identical.
And you can take the brakes you get with it too.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:26 AM
Grant please check your facts !!!!!!Salsbury's get bigger axles, but the bits that matter inside are the same as Banjos. Tonner centres are stronger than std ones, and you get a better spread of ratios with the Salisbury.
You can use the Banjo Crown wheels etc, to make up the 2.78, 3.9 and 4.11s........
Easier to change a Banjo centre tho, hehehe.
BW is the way to go the VL Turbo and VN being identical.
And you can take the brakes you get with it too.
Grant..
there are several types of "sailsbury " diffs fitted to Holdens, firstly there were the ones fitted to HK/T/G , chev type unit.
then there is the V8 large sailsbury that was fitted to all V8 HQ to HZ holdens, available in single wheeler or LSD, ratio choices are 2.60 , 2.78 , 3.08 , 3.36 , 3.55 and 4.44 (4.44 was the one tonner ratio, they also have a thicker axle in tonners) also fitted to WB statesmans and 5.0 ltr WB utes / vans/ tonners , they are also standard fitment in all 5.0 commodores from VB to VK . and A9X's.
then there's the third group, small sailsbury, fitted to UC torana/sunbird, all non 5.0ltr commodores up to vl. and non 5.0ltr WB's , this is the type that uses the same internals as the banjo diff centres.
there is no 4.11 ratio holden sailbury (or banjo) .
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:02 AM
Hi Guys.
To add to what MYLJ has posted, the Large Holden Salisbury was fitted to ALL 1-Tonners from HQ to WB both 6 & V8.
The Large Salisbury was available in the ratios:- 2.60, 2.78, 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.90 & 4.44.
The Small Salisbury was available in the ratios:-3.08, 3.36, 3.55 & 3.90. These gears are the same as banjo diff gears, so the old HK/HT/HG 2.78 gears would also fit into the Small Salisbury centre, if required. If you really wanted to the old 3.89 (48 to EJ gears would also fit.
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To add to what MYLJ has posted, the Large Holden Salisbury was fitted to ALL 1-Tonners from HQ to WB both 6 & V8.
The Large Salisbury was available in the ratios:- 2.60, 2.78, 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.90 & 4.44.
The Small Salisbury was available in the ratios:-3.08, 3.36, 3.55 & 3.90. These gears are the same as banjo diff gears, so the old HK/HT/HG 2.78 gears would also fit into the Small Salisbury centre, if required. If you really wanted to the old 3.89 (48 to EJ gears would also fit.
Dr Terry.
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very true, but no 3.9's in large 10 bolt salsbury's ... sorry to be picky! lolHi Guys.
To add to what MYLJ has posted, the Large Holden Salisbury was fitted to ALL 1-Tonners from HQ to WB both 6 & V8.
The Large Salisbury was available in the ratios:- 2.60, 2.78, 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.90 & 4.44.
The Small Salisbury was available in the ratios:-3.08, 3.36, 3.55 & 3.90. These gears are the same as banjo diff gears, so the old HK/HT/HG 2.78 gears would also fit into the Small Salisbury centre, if required. If you really wanted to the old 3.89 (48 to EJ gears would also fit.
Dr Terry.
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