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#26 FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

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Posted 25 September 2020 - 08:47 AM

and is that a hat or a wig on that guy ?



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Posted 25 September 2020 - 12:07 PM

and can a 73 crossmember bolt straight up to a LC or LJ 72 chassis ?



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Posted 25 September 2020 - 04:19 PM

It appears the answer to that is yes it can.......



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Posted 26 September 2020 - 07:51 AM

The big thing is if its the winning 72 car, there is no way it can be a 73 body, I also thought it had the bigger bumper bar hole in the radiator support panel, but that could be just shadow, really would need clearer image to be spot on, anyways come on Bruce tell us is it the old Peter Brock 28C car or not ???

 

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Posted 26 September 2020 - 12:42 PM

I also wondered about that shadow and whether it indicated the stronger '73 bracket, especially when the bracket seems to have held firm when the bumper bent; I would have thought the much lighter '72 bracket would have given way. But as Gong says the pictures aren't clear enough to be decisive.

 

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Posted 27 September 2020 - 12:35 PM

 I also thought it had the bigger bumper bar hole in the radiator support panel, but that could be just shadow, really would need clearer image to be spot on, 

 

Cheers gong

 

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In Als photo it looks like it could have the reinforcement, directly under the bolt which bolts the A Frame to the chassis ? It could be shadow ? Really would need clearer images to be spot on.......



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Posted 28 September 2020 - 06:34 AM

I'm passed the 72-73 part of the thread,,, I'm now more interested to know if it was the old 28C car, and to be totally honest with you Bruce I have come to think you are a bit of a guru on these old race cars and thought you would know, Al do you have any more info ???

 

Cheers gong



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Posted 28 September 2020 - 09:36 AM

Only one HDT LJ had the vent grille in front of the windscreen cut open.

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 07:40 AM

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Hi Gong

I'm sorry, I do not know. I have been told various stories over the years and now am looking into them. Finding clear pictures of car 11 at Bathurst in 1974 is proving to be a task in itself.......



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Posted 29 September 2020 - 08:35 AM

I'm passed the 72-73 part of the thread,,, I'm now more interested to know if it was the old 28C car, and to be totally honest with you Bruce I have come to think you are a bit of a guru on these old race cars and thought you would know, Al do you have any more info ???

 

Cheers gong

Hi John, I agree with Al. It is P.B's ex 28C Bathurst winner.
 



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Posted 29 September 2020 - 08:15 PM

Was speaking to a guy today who was involved in racing back then.
He commented that it would be the 28c car, later sold to D. Johnson.

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Posted 30 September 2020 - 05:11 PM

 Not according to Dick Johnson.

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Posted 30 September 2020 - 05:22 PM

Who wrote that piece Anthony?



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 06:51 PM

um, not sure that makes sense...isn't DJ being quoted as thinking XU1s had potential. The author made the Bond car comment?

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Posted 30 September 2020 - 07:20 PM

So that is saying it is the old 24C shell that was gutted and put through a new shell? That this car was built from that old stripped 24C shell?

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Posted 01 October 2020 - 08:52 AM

um, not sure that makes sense...isn't DJ being quoted as thinking XU1s had potential. The author made the Bond car comment?

Agree Col, the author of that article has made the claim about the Nixon-Smith car being the original 24C shell, not Dick Johnson.
 



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Posted 01 October 2020 - 10:42 AM

The book was published in 1985 ,i have spoken to both Dick and Julie on the matter and have confirmed its all correct.Julie did all the work.......... not author.

 

 

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 08:26 PM

Barry Nixon-Smith purchased Peter Brock's old Bathurst winning 28C LJ GTR XU-1 from the HDT in early 1974.

This is the very same XU1 that Dennis Geary became a passenger in, slammed into the embankment and rolled at Forrest Elbow during Bathurst in 1974.

The car was repaired and Barry competed in at least one more race in the car before selling it to Dick Johnson in early 1975.

Dick Johnson knew full well the LJ GTR XU1 he was buying from Nixon-Smith was the 28C car that Peter Brock drove to victory at Bathurst in 1972.

When Dick was finished with the car he sold it to Kerry Cox who in turn sold it to Peter Varady in 1978 with Peter then selling it to Glenn Amos 3 years later.

AFAIK Glenn still owns the car.


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Posted 16 October 2020 - 08:57 AM

:clap: :clap: :clap: Now there is some head spinning knowledge for us all,,,

Thanks and cheers gong



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Posted 17 October 2020 - 04:22 AM

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 07:41 AM

seat belt anchoring point....... Sandown 72

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 08:34 AM

Both 28c and 24c we're both Adelaide 1/72 chassis numbers ALJ 00###A and consecutive PSN/VIN numbers and body numbers,one was only registered for 12 month and one still registered until the late 70's in Victoria



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Posted 17 October 2020 - 08:50 AM

interesting pics there FLY,,, so is it the original shell ? Or a re shelled car ? The reason I ask this is it seems to have a 73 cut out in the drivers guard, but that number 11 car this thread is about would have needed a new drivers guard judging by the looks of it.

Cheers gong



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Posted 17 October 2020 - 10:09 AM

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 10:23 AM

Maybe both guards have been replaced Gong with both guards being turned down as per Brisbane built cars ? ? ? ?






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