Double chassis numbers
#1 _rowley242_
Posted 21 October 2020 - 01:36 PM
The upper one matches the body tag, a BLH, and the front one starts with CLX
Car is supposed to be an LH
Any ideas on why the higher number would have been punched in?
It's very far from original and made of a mismatch of parts, but this confuses me even more, as I'm fairly sure it's an LH body...?
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#2
Posted 21 October 2020 - 02:02 PM
Hard to say without a lot more detail, but two theories occur to me... either it's had a front-end smash and been repaired with parts from another car... or the CLX number is correct and the BLH tags have been swapped (meaning it may not actually be an SLR)?
Was the CLX number covered up with something?
Next thing I'd be doing is to figure out whether it is an LH or an LX shell? The two easiest items to pick would be:
1) Does it have the brace running across the boot between the tail lights?
2) Where do the rear seat belts mount (C-pillar or parcel shelf)?
#3
Posted 21 October 2020 - 02:58 PM
#4 _rowley242_
Posted 21 October 2020 - 04:49 PM
So the CLX was under bog, a layer of original colour persian sand, more filler then then respray colour.Hard to say without a lot more detail, but two theories occur to me... either it's had a front-end smash and been repaired with parts from another car... or the CLX number is correct and the BLH tags have been swapped (meaning it may not actually be an SLR)?
Was the CLX number covered up with something?
Next thing I'd be doing is to figure out whether it is an LH or an LX shell? The two easiest items to pick would be:
1) Does it have the brace running across the boot between the tail lights?
2) Where do the rear seat belts mount (C-pillar or parcel shelf)?
Dad thinks maybe chopped in sections from an accident too?
Parcel shelf seatbelt mounts look orig yeah? but no boot bar between the lights.
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#5
Posted 21 October 2020 - 04:55 PM
#6 _rowley242_
Posted 21 October 2020 - 04:57 PM
Well there ya go... Wonder where it'd tags came from then! And it's interior for that matter!Complete LX shell for sure.
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#7
Posted 21 October 2020 - 05:16 PM
Yeeeee straight up LX. The other LH number is trying to match your tags.
#8
Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:13 PM
Well there ya go... Wonder where it'd tags came from then! And it's interior for that matter!
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There is a possibility you may have the body shell from a stolen LX Torana.
#9 _rowley242_
Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:17 PM
I'd assume more likely the repaired route, the front panel isn't orig, and non standard radiatorThere is a possibility you may have the body shell from a stolen LX Torana.
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#10
Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:26 PM
#11
Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:55 PM
There is a possibility you may have the body shell from a stolen LX Torana.
I would certainly be running the CLX chassis number through REVS or someone similar.
I'd assume more likely the repaired route, the front panel isn't orig, and non standard radiator
I'd assume, because the tags are LH8VD69, that someone has put them on a different car to artificially increase the value. That seems like the most obvious scenario to me?
BTW, the "proper" way to sort this out is to get the police involved, they will likely impound the car for forensic examination and ask a heap of "who's responsible" and "where'd ya get it" type questions.
If the old (CLX) chassis number comes up stolen you lose your car. If not, they will issue you a "police number" and you'll need to have someone strike-out the other two chassis numbers and stamp a third (police number) on it. That will then be the legal identifier.
I'm not telling you what to do, but it depends on what you're planning to do with the car. If thinking of selling it then it would be worth it to get it sorted out, otherwise the next guy is buying a can of worms.
#12 _rowley242_
Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:00 PM
Nah the tags arnt a vd, just a vc. So no value increase on that one.I would certainly be running the CLX chassis number through REVS or someone similar.
I'd assume, because the tags are LH8VD69, that someone has put them on a different car to artificially increase the value. That seems like the most obvious scenario to me?
BTW, the "proper" way to sort this out is to get the police involved, they will likely impound the car for forensic examination and ask a heap of "who's responsible" and "where'd ya get it" type questions.
If the old (CLX) chassis number comes up stolen you lose your car. If not, they will issue you a "police number" and you'll need to have someonestrike-outthe other two chassis numbers and stamp a third (police number) on it. That will then be the legal identifier.
I'm not telling you what to do, but it depends on what you're planning to do with the car. If thinking of selling it then it would be worth it to get it sorted out, otherwise the next guy is buying a can of worms.
Revs had no hit either, did that one.
And its not going up for sale, I'm just curious to know it's story!
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#13
Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:04 PM
Edited by hanra, 21 October 2020 - 09:04 PM.
#14
Posted 22 October 2020 - 08:59 AM
Nah the tags arnt a vd, just a vc. So no value increase on that one.
Ah okay, I was just going by the description below your avatar, which says "LH SL/R 3300", my apologies.
#15 _rowley242_
Posted 22 October 2020 - 09:18 AM
Ohhh, yeah, that's what it looks like. So just call it that. Nfi what is was. Its got UC bits mixed in too!Ah okay, I was just going by the description below your avatar, which says "LH SL/R 3300", my apologies.
Spoke to Holden historical, there's no way to tell what it was, most likely the result of progressive dodgy/cheap repairs back in the day.
Oh well. Doesn't really bother me. It's still or Torana
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#16
Posted 22 October 2020 - 09:31 AM
#17 _rowley242_
Posted 22 October 2020 - 09:40 AM
Oh God... I regret asking Hahahaha.Unless it was a Sunbird! Which it could have been from memory with that chassis number.
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#18
Posted 29 October 2020 - 07:55 PM
I know it's obvious, but the chassis number stamp under the brake bias switch is not a Holden location for a chassis number, so it has been added later in life. There are also a few differences between early and late LHs, to do with evap emission control. I can see a few dents around the original Holden location for the chassis number which is where the evap canister bracket is welded in later LHs and all LXs. I wonder if someone has crudely removed the evap canister and those welds, making it look more like an early LH, but leaving the dents? Something else to check on the fuel tank. Early LH's had only two breather vent pipes from the tank which ran up in the rear wheel arches above the rear wheels, and were held into place by welded on folding brackets. If those brackets are there, it's probably an early LH body. If not, late LH or LX.
Late LHs and all LXs had a fuel vapor separator mounted to the body on the front of the passenger side of the fuel tank (bolted to the body) with three pipes, two were connected to the driver's side of the fuel tank, and one to the passenger side, also from memory held on to the car body with fold over brackets.
#19
Posted 30 October 2020 - 09:13 AM
Really needs to be sorted out with a Police number.
Otherwise it may end up being a few lost hours at a Police station trying to explain things.
Cheers
Rob
#20
Posted 31 October 2020 - 09:42 AM
If the body number that is in the correct original location matches all the other details then the other is of no relevance and god knows why it’s there. Assuming it has factory appearance it’s likely someone has used metal from a wreck to make a repair.
if this is the case then I can see a reasonable case for permanently destroying that number.
#21
Posted 31 October 2020 - 10:35 AM
If the body number that is in the correct original location matches all the other details then the other is of no relevance and god knows why it’s there. Assuming it has factory appearance it’s likely someone has used metal from a wreck to make a repair.
if this is the case then I can see a reasonable case for permanently destroying that number.
Im thinking that if it got inspected, and the other number was noticed, then there would be questions to answer about both numbers.
A Police number would be issued, but you would have to strike out both of the other numbers more than likely.
Cheers
Rob
#22
Posted 02 November 2020 - 02:57 PM
Careful this car dosnt wind up having issues like what is discussed below.
http://www.gmh-toran...ed-muscle-cars/
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