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#1 Pop's-SS

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 10:36 PM

G'day All

I have been asked by a fella who has a 73 LJ 3sp/man one owner 115Ks that shudders in reverse gear.

He has replaced a lot of things including motor and gearbox mounts, re-surfaced the fly-wheel and a couple of other things.

He did say that not long after the car came out, there was a remedy for this situation to be circulated around the Holden dealers.

Has any one heard of this trouble and most importantly know how to fix it?

Thanks and kind regards............Barry.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 12:58 AM

Fit Trimatic :-)

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 02:09 AM

Sounds familiar ,i had a LJ 3 on the colum and it did the same,could have been my bad driving though because it stopped after taking my foot completley of the clutch but i used to have to ride it a little to vary the speed thats when it used to shudder.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:20 AM

it is flex in the mecanical clutch setup that is causing the problem
to fix rebuild the rat trap. :unsure:
the holden dealer remidy was a strenthaning kit that changed the angles
of the rat trap but you would be lucky to find one
the only one ive seen on ebay went for nearly 300 but i was lucky to find a nos one at a swap meet for 20 as the bloke didnt know what it was :D

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 02:34 PM

Thanks fellas.

The fella with the problem was once a GMH mechanic but has since working a long time ago and had forgotten how to fix it.

I will give him a ring and let him know. B)

Much thanks..................Barry. :D

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:06 PM

G'day doublin gtr

Could you please explain by what you mean by "rat trap" & if possible could you do a drawing of the rat trap and send it to my private addy of [email protected]

Thanks for your help, regards.............Barry.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:56 PM

Clutch shudder in reverse isnt an uncommon prob in any make of car, sorry dont know much about why or the cure though.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 07:01 PM

bazz the mechanical clutch mecanism is also known as a rat trap
ie clutch support bracket and all of that
hope this helps if not let me know and ill see if i can dig a drawing up
regards
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Posted 18 December 2005 - 08:54 PM

Did he replace the pressure plate and clutch plate? An obvious one I guess but has to be asked.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 10:41 PM

G'day surfmaster

As far as I know he has replaced the engine and gearbox mounts, new pressure plate, new clutch, uni's, re-surfaced the fly-wheel and something about a spigot (bearing) ?

Regards...................Barry.

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 04:19 PM

G'Day Barry,

If all that stuff has been replaced it should work in theory without shudder. I will put my thinking cap on, but all I can come up with after that is oil on the clutch plate, but if the problem existed before the parts replaced then it must be something else. I will dig out my old mechanic books and have alook there?

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 09:00 PM

Has he looked at rear suspension bushes?

Usually its related to the driver slipping the clutch..they don't realise how much they do it.




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