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Started by _hux454_ , Sep 26 2006 07:51 PM

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#1 _hux454_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 07:51 PM

In 1976 only 2,874 SLR 5000's were ever produced. My particular car came to be born on the 9th Feb 76 (the letter from GMH states it was one of the first 4 door SLR 5000's to be made). Of the 2,874 four doors made only 25 came with the optional Tri-matic transmission (which this is one of). To add rarity to this "Muscle Car" it was only 1 of 12 that had the paint code Papaya 568-17777. The SS Hatchback's with this paint colour produced substantially more. My car also had the optional "Ranier" cloth interior that was available at the time.
Because of the above I belive my SLR 5000 is probably the only Papaya automatic ever produced. If anyone can confirm this, I would be most grateful.
Besides me who has an SLR 5000 with an auto. I think not any.

Edited by hux454, 26 September 2006 - 07:58 PM.

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#2 LS1LX

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:08 PM

Mate I hate bursting bubbles but you keep coming up with all this "rare" shit all the time.
Auto SL/R 5000's are rare, YES.
Muscle Car, NO, there is no such thing as an AUTO muscle car, all the factory muscle cars were manuals.

Your car looks great and we appreciate what it is, but its no million $$$ set of wheels because its got a trimatic.

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:08 PM

In 1976 only 2,874 SLR 5000's were ever produced. My particular car came to be born on the 9th Feb 76 (the letter from GMH states it was one of the first 4 door SLR 5000's to be made). Besides me who has an SLR 5000 with an auto. I think not any.

Well I've got one for a start.

I don't know that yours was one of the first though because you mention that yours was born in Feb 76, well mine was born Nov 74.

They are a great car of course and I would prefer the M21 option but I also enjoy having something a bit different.

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#4 _Rob 5000_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:29 PM

I like reading about and seeing all kinda muscle cars. A good friend had a limited edition big block 1968 SS camaro. It was auto and is sure met my definition of a muscle car. The SLR/5000 auto is definitly one of the rarer ones and even though I personally would not want an auto I can appreciate its rarity and worth as a collectable muscle car. :spoton:

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:29 PM

Mate I hate bursting bubbles but you keep coming up with all this "rare" shit all the time.
Auto SL/R 5000's are rare, YES.
Muscle Car, NO, there is no such thing as an AUTO muscle car, all the factory muscle cars were manuals.

Your car looks great and we appreciate what it is, but its no million $$$ set of wheels because its got a trimatic.

is a factory '69 targa top vette stingray 427/TH400 not a muscle car.
its raced targa, here in Australia, i should know, i helped with the conversion from left to right.

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#6 _MRNOS_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:37 PM

Mate I hate bursting bubbles but you keep coming up with all this "rare" shit all the time.
Auto SL/R 5000's are rare, YES.
Muscle Car, NO, there is no such thing as an AUTO muscle car, all the factory muscle cars were manuals.

Your car looks great and we appreciate what it is, but its no million $$$ set of wheels because its got a trimatic.

So all Toranas are only "muscle" cars if they had a manual? And all other cars are only classed as a "muscle" car if they had manual gearboxes? Give me a break...So whats a 1967 RS SS Camaro 396 big block and auto-factory spec? Is that a granny car? What about a HK 327 Monaro with a 2 speed powerglide? Only a muscle car with a manual...bullshit

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#7 _hux454_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:45 PM

LS1LX - I never stated that it was a "$$$ million set of wheels" from what you are saying then I would guess that any Monaro, SS, Brock Commodore, Ford GT or any other muscle car model fitted from the factory with an auto is not a muscle car then. I think not.

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#8 _hux454_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:48 PM

MRNOS My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#9 _hux454_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 08:52 PM

Kudu, I should have stated the LX model. Have you gat an LH SLR 5000 auto then?

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#10 _AquaSLR5000_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 09:01 PM

Hey Hux, How and where did you get this info. I wouldn't mind finding out about my cars

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#11 _hux454_

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 09:19 PM

aquaSLRandSS5000s, I know an elderly gentleman who also has a papaya he is restoring and he passed on the info to me. Although i cannot verify i hope this to be correct as he has a friend at GMH in Melb who has access to the microfiche, we can only hope i guess. Pleases excuse me if i cannot fully verify. I'm in the process of confirming.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:25 PM

Mate I hate bursting bubbles but you keep coming up with all this "rare" shit all the time.
Auto SL/R 5000's are rare, YES.
Muscle Car, NO, there is no such thing as an AUTO muscle car, all the factory muscle cars were manuals.

Your car looks great and we appreciate what it is, but its no million $$$ set of wheels because its got a trimatic.

That is BOLLOX LS1LX!! As stated earlier there are plenty of examples of Muscle Cars with Auto Gearboxes. The first one that comes to mind is a HK GTS Monaro. Thats an absolute classic muscle car, even with the auto option. Mine might not be the most desireable model Torana, but I still consider it a muscle car even though it has a Trimatic. To me muscle car = V8 in small car and thats what my car is.

And yes Hux, mine is a LH SL/R 5000 Auto.

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 07:49 AM

Find me 1 Genuine HK 327 Auto Monaro and I will apologise.

btw I wouldnt call a 220HP 5.0L Holden a muscle car.

you guys need to work out what a muscle car is. you can not compare too many aussie cars with the likes of a 426 Hemi CUDA, its like chalk and cheese, which one is muscle which one is mouse, EXACTLY. Besides the H03 theres not much that would compare from Aussie cars.

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#14 _DocDamage_

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 01:00 PM

I checked the front of my diary and the back of my Gregorys workshop manual and couldn't find a unit of measurement for "muscle". It's just an opinion and when magazines use it as a label it's an opinion forced on us. If a 429 Cuda is a muscle car but a 5 litre torana isn't my next question would be where is the line drawn, and by who?

Is the maclaren F1 a muscle car or a sports car, what about a GT40?

I consider a muscle car to be anythying that significantly out muscles its peers, and something like a Barracuda is an import not a peer.

Just had another though, if australia has no muscle cars then when did the GTO stop being an American Muscle Car, was it the day the first aussie shell hit their shores?

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 02:23 PM

Getting back to the topic, Hux, it's not that rare to have an auto SL/R5000. Ive seen a few auto SL/R 5000s, heard of a few more (Papaya and other colours), and we had one in the Club for years, which was also Papaya. Just enjoy it for what it is, and don't get hung up on how rare it is or isn't.

As for autos vs manuals, well, I prefer manuals, but I wouldn't say that the transmission type defines whether it's a muscle car or not. That's a bit of a narrow definition, in my opinion.

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 02:44 PM

btw I wouldnt call a 220HP 5.0L Holden a muscle car.

you guys need to work out what a muscle car is. you can not compare too many aussie cars with the likes of a 426 Hemi CUDA, its like chalk and cheese, which one is muscle which one is mouse, EXACTLY. Besides the H03 theres not much that would compare from Aussie cars.

I don't think we need to "work out" what a muscle car is. Thats because what someone deems a muscle car might slightly differ from anothers. So yes a Hemi Cuda qualifies I also believe a SS Torana/SLR 5000/A9X also qualifies. If you don't well thats your opinion.

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#17 _lx5008_

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 03:33 PM

WHAT IS A MUSCLE CAR.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE NAME MUSCLE CAR IS A AUSTRALIAN TERM
IN THE 60,S AND 70,S AROUND BATHURST THE DRIVERS HAD TO USE
MUSCLE TO DRIVE THESE CARS. HENCE MUSCLE CARS.
ALSO GLENN ANYBODY THAT HAS A SLR5000 AT HOME CALL THEM MUSCLE
CAUSE THEY ARE IN MY OPINION. OR ANY MODEL CAR THAT DID RACE IN
AUSTRALIA.

P.S SORRY FOR USING THE CAPS LOCK ON BUT IM AT WORK.

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 03:50 PM

Hmm - Let's see. Nope, nothing about excluding automatics.

http://en.wikipedia....scle_car#Origin

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#19 _torana06_

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:28 PM

half the american LHD drive imports you can get are auto
so trans what eva your preference has nothing to do with whether its a muscle car or not

i always thought stuff made 70's and earlier with v8 (big or small block) and sixes is considered muscle

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#20 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 07:56 PM

I don't know that yours was one of the first though because you mention that yours was born in Feb 76, well mine was born Nov 74.

Mine is March 74, but not an auto.

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 08:35 PM

just so everyone knows I am not directing any of this at HUX's car, was actually looking at purchasing it when it was for sale last year/early this year.

ive said enough ill let it get back on topic, treading on too many toes me thinks.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 07:40 AM

Interesting conversation going on here guys.

I reckon we can proudly call our Torana's "Aussie Muscle Cars". Doesn't matter whether is it manual or automatic. Depending on your model, your car has survived about 30 years of motoring and is part of history, so enjoy them. I also believe you do have a rare torana Hux, anyway that's my two cents worth,

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:36 AM

Hi Guys.

I thought I'd throw in my 2c here.

Who said a Muscle car can't be an auto ? The quickest STOCK SL/R5000 I've driven was an early (non-ADR27A) Absinth Yellow LX with a Tri-Matic T-Bar. It had serious traction issues & once it got traction it went like a scalded cat. Automatic SL/R5000s were not available when the LH series was released (April '74), the option was introduced because of demand, during 1975. LH SL/R5000 autos are more rare than the LX version.

Also when you go to the drags & check out all the fastest street cars, you'll note most, if not all of them are autos.

I think it's bit elitist to suggest that a car is not a serious performance or 'Muscle' car unless it's a manual.

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#24 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 02:40 PM

Mate I hate bursting bubbles but you keep coming up with all this "rare" shit all the time.

Hux is alright mate, back off. I thought this site is about the love for our Torana's, why are we blasting this dude for loving his particular Torana, I thought that's what we were trying to achieve, everybody loving what they have, rare or not.

Glenn, keep on believing your car is special, because it is, and I'm glad you think that way about your car.

Also, nothing to scoff about with Auto's. Driven properly, they'll shit all over manuals any day. Just have other issues that make them unsuitable for circuit work.

Edited by Yella SLuR, 29 September 2006 - 02:43 PM.

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#25 _hux454_

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 04:28 PM

Struth, all I wanted to know from fellow forum members if the car was indeed rare & who else out there had an auto SLR 5000. That's twice now I've been ambushed for raising an issue.