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Noble Park (Vic) Hoon disgust

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#26 MRLXSS

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:58 AM

yet another thing the government started by taking cars off of people

So this despicable behaviour in Noble Park was a protest against the confiscation law.........was that in the media beat up, or did I miss that......or is that you strange logic/justification for condoning all of the action that took place except for the video store?

Interesting quotes from the media Tinkers; don�t know what we are meant to make of babies in prams being there? Crying babies incited the rage��..hoons cant afford babysitters?

i was agreeing with this post.... haha

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:19 AM

again devils i ask, LIKE WHAT? tell me all about it im all ears.

Perhaps if you asked in a civil and polite way, then Id suggest something, however, I feel you possibly dont want to know(or are already well aware of) and would only ridicule any suggestions, as is seen to be your nature in the way you made several personal attacks on myself for stating a different point of view in this thread and others.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:45 AM

DA, it would seem that a lot of people do not comprehend the the danger of a situation like this, and are at times irresponsible enough to bring their kids along because they think it's a priority.

(Keep in mind this event is held at like 2am; so not many babysitters would be availible. But it's not like those people have to be there, fark I hate some bogans!)

Of course you are right Heath, I only bought up the other reasons as the media was being circumspect and asking the reader to make their own interpretation......the obvious point you make being "not obvious" to the people who were there with babies. Possibly it was a beat up by the media, one stroller appearing perhaps.
Maybe, they can add another clause to the hoon law, babies at illegal drag meets will also be confiscated. :nada:

Edited by devilsadvocate, 15 January 2007 - 07:48 AM.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:17 AM

There are cheaper, environmentally friendly, lower risk and higher physical activity pastimes that all our hoons could be involved in to occupy their spare time, governments needs to tackle the problem of changing this culture, not have the general public subsidise and feed more hoon activity.� � We dont need to encourage drag racing as a sport, all it will do is get more people involved who modify cars and they will feel the need to practice/use(in practice for their next drag meet) the potential of their car in suburban streets to show off how powerful they are, just more hoons that would pass by my place on the way to work and think it doesnt affect anyone to give the tyres a bit of a spin for a few seconds, they have the taste for it and want to get a fix as often as possible.� Being legally able to drag a road reg car has its problems to me..............where do people practice and setup their cars b4 they go to the drags?

hahah, you've got to be joking right? Stopping legalised racing will fix the problem :rolleyes:

Just like if you banned all forms of martial arts/boxing training no one would get bashed on the streets right? I hate to break it to you mate, but the people that go to the drag strips and the people who go to the illegal runs and trash public property and bash coppers are not the same group. Those people are called "criminals". Who else would go out and hang around a shithole area at 2am f*cking things up? Not me! I know people who go to the illegal drags all the time and guess what? They're dodgy pricks. I went to the illegal drags once (2001) I was jump by a gang of filthy lebbos and had the shit beaten out of me with poles and shit for $10 and a 4 year old mobile phone. That sure as hell doesnt happen at WSID.

F*ck the illegal drags, take their cars, lock them up. But ffs don't turn on the blokes who try and do the right thing!

Edited by QIKSLR, 15 January 2007 - 08:21 AM.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:17 AM

There are cheaper, environmentally friendly, lower risk and higher physical activity pastimes that all our hoons could be involved in to occupy their spare time, governments needs to tackle the problem of changing this culture, not have the general public subsidise and feed more hoon activity.� � We dont need to encourage drag racing as a sport, all it will do is get more people involved who modify cars and they will feel the need to practice/use(in practice for their next drag meet) the potential of their car in suburban streets to show off how powerful they are, just more hoons that would pass by my place on the way to work and think it doesnt affect anyone to give the tyres a bit of a spin for a few seconds, they have the taste for it and want to get a fix as often as possible.� Being legally able to drag a road reg car has its problems to me..............where do people practice and setup their cars b4 they go to the drags?
hahah, you've got to be joking right? Stopping legalised racing will fix the problem Just like if you banned all forms of martial arts/boxing training no one would get bashed on the streets right? I hate to break it to you mate, but the people that go to the drag strips and the people who go to the illegal runs and trash public property and bash coppers are not the same group. Those people are called "criminals". Who else would go out and hang around a shithole area at 2am f*cking things up? Not me! I know people who go to the illegal drags all the time and guess what? They're dodgy pricks. I went to the illegal drags once (2001) I was jump by a gang of filthy lebbos and had the shit beaten out of me with poles and shit for $10 and a 4 year old mobile phone. That sure as hell doesnt happen at WSID.

F*ck the illegal drags, take their cars, lock them up. But ffs don't turn on the blokes who try and do the right thing!

I have to agree with QIKSLR, the people that hang around McDonalds doing burnouts in their mums car are not the same people that rock up to a street meet every week.

I know for a fact here in Canb. when we had a drag strip the Friday night trouble makers NEVER showed up at the strip, even when they moved the street meets to Friday nights !!! I guess these guys are too scared to find out how slow their cars really are !!

On another note.....How is doing a single wheeler burnout out of a driveway the same as launching a powerful car on slicks, on a prepared purpose built track with start lights and timing equipment ?

Also I can't remember the last time I went to a dragstrip and a mob broke into a video store (or similar) and trashed it..............

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:20 AM

Maybe, they can add another clause to the hoon law, babies at illegal drag meets will also be confiscated.

hehe I'm sure there'd be some controversy over that proposal, but a nice idea anyway

Interesting read there Marty, cheers, even if it involved you having the shit smashed out of you. It's good advice for someone like me anyway lol.

Also, what you ideally want is a Hoon culture who respect the police, respect the public and the areas they drive in. Who have enough reasonably priced oppurtunities to go and test out their car and push it to its limits, and cops have to be present. With cops present at an event like that, it's a psychological thing; it's all about the authorities respecting hoons who do the right thing (Which relates heavily to the canarying at Springnats/Easternats etc!!!).

Imagine what it would be like being pulled over for having a tail light out, and the police officer saying "hey I saw you at Calder the other night, not a bad effort out there on the skid pan at all. What's under the bonnet?"

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:20 AM

From what i have seen it certainly got ugly.

In my opinion it comes down to bad management of the situation by the police. I was talking to a work mate that has been heading down there a fair bit lately, he was only saying the other week how it gets bigger and bigger each week and he can not beleive that the police just drive past.

Common sense says its easier to control the situation when its small rather than let it get as big as it did the other night, week after week they turn a blind eye to it all, and look at the end result, chaos.

The police need to concead that they will never "stop" illegal street racing, its been going on forever. I dont think there is any easy answer to stop it but what i find slightly amusing is that all this activity happens less than 2-3 minutes from a well known race track, prehaps regular events could be organised at a "resonable" price with proper policing, maybe time for the government to put there hand in there pocket and allocate the money to help these "hoons" instead of fighting them.

Having said all that the behaviour of these clowns had me speechless, reminds me of something you would see in soccor riot or the LA riots

my 2 cents anyway..

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:52 AM

hahah, you've got to be joking right? Stopping legalised racing will fix the problem

Here is a summary of what I said:
Legalised drag racing: fine
Encouraging more people to go drag racing: not good
Being able to race road cars at the drags: not good.
Please go back and examine the reasons I gave for those, its an opinion and your welcome to disagree......but please exercise some decorum in your reply......possibly the lack of which gets most hoons into more trouble when they do come in police contact.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:08 AM

Pull there pants down and smack there ass cos it never happend when they were littel kids it it a disgrace take there cars licence and give them a fine they will never forget that is my 2 cents worth .

^purfect!
i would cop the biggest beating (wooden spoon, jug cord, dad's mad leather belt <-stung like hell) if i done half that shit. i recon half the kids now have never copped an upslap to the back of the head for rudeness hence why there so feral.
im happy to smack my kids and threatening them with "i WILL beat the living shit outta you" strikes fear into my kids faces, and so it should.
lazy ass parents is the problem and the only reason they are is because higher officials tell them to let there kids run all over them or they will be in the shit.
^and im a youth drug and alcohol worker, ive spent years seeing this shit first hand.
frikin sad!

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:27 AM

you know the worse thing about these kids who have never been punished?

Its only going to get worse! i think i am the tail end of the generation where it was seen as ok to give the kid a smack if they did something wrong. Give it 5 years and the 16-18yos will be out of control IMHO anyway....

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:35 AM

I know for a fact here in Canb. when we had a drag strip the Friday night trouble makers NEVER showed up at the strip, even when they moved the street meets to Friday nights !!! I guess these guys are too scared to find out how slow their cars really are !!

We had this on the Gold Coast as well, people were screaming for a drag strip again as the Surfers Paradise Raceway has closed down years before. So Operation Drag was born, quite a lot of people supported this but it dwindled, didnt help that the track wasnt maintained.

But it didnt stop the local street drags, you rarely saw those cars on the track cos like Struggler said, they might just find out how slow their car really is.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:42 AM

I'm a P plater and I f*cking hate these idiots giving the 'hoon' stigma to the greater P plater population. I've had one minor bingle since I got my P's in early 2005 and haven't lost any points from my license yet. Why not? Because I drive according to the road rules.
But now, as soon as the cops see the P plates, they're after you, not because you're disobeying some law (most of time, we're not), but because they automatically think that you're either breaking the law or are about to.

As for the drags, my mate is into VL turbos and all that shit (not everyone's perfect) and I told him to get his rear end down to Heathcote or Calder on a Friday night, to which his reply was "yeah, but it's not as fun, because it's legal there." It's been proven over the years that fining these dickheads isn't working. Confiscating their cars is the only way to go. Take their car on the first offence as well as their licence. That'd cut down on the greenhouse emissions too.

So, to the knob-jockeys that give us law-abiding P platers a bad name by hooning, I say to you: :finger: F**K YOU!!!!

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:07 PM

edited to take out the comment that had nothing to do with this thread.

if victoria were anyserious about having drags on for everyone they would be free for spectators to get in and 10 bucks a head to race for the night

Edited by tinkers, 15 January 2007 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

Edited see above

are you serious chevy?

sorry but if i saw some idiot endangering peoples lives i would be calling the cops, whether they are a fellow car person or not! By them acting like idiots on our roads then they are not showing me the respect i deserve, so why shouldnt i dob them in?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

Sorry seems I was a bit slow in editing Chevy's post.

But I agree with what your repy was so I left that part.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:33 PM

Chamios Hatch, we've been over this one b4. Its easier to reply than do a search though....

sarcasm like that is unwarranted, i was stating a point thats is relavent to the topic, so there is no reason to read old threads.

you state your point, relavent or not, and thats OK.

For someone who sooks about personal attack you dish some out as well.

There are cheaper, environmentally friendly, lower risk and higher physical activity pastimes that all our hoons could be involved in to occupy their spare time, governments needs to tackle the problem of changing this culture

i, like most, would like to hear your suggestions, you either have some or you dont.

and why should the drag racing culture be changed? some people like to play tennis, go shopping, others like drag racing and playing mechanic. its only a problem when done on the street. this is what the authorities should be focusing on. not suppressing drag racing in general as you suggest.

its understandable that you may not be into drag racing, thats fine, in which case why respond to this thread at all, and create such a stir?

its OK to have an opinion, its when you try to forcefeed your opinion to someone else is when it gets nasty.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:34 PM

hahah, you've got to be joking right? Stopping legalised racing will fix the problem

Here is a summary of what I said:
Legalised drag racing: fine
Encouraging more people to go drag racing: not good
Being able to race road cars at the drags: not good.
Please go back and examine the reasons I gave for those, its an opinion and your welcome to disagree......but please exercise some decorum in your reply......possibly the lack of which gets most hoons into more trouble when they do come in police contact.

You didn't say that legalised drag racing was fine at all, you said the complete oposite!

There are cheaper, environmentally friendly, lower risk and higher physical activity pastimes that all our hoons could be involved in to occupy their spare time

We dont need to encourage drag racing as a sport, all it will do is get more people involved who modify cars and they will feel the need to practice/use

I don't aruge with the police, but I will go off my head at anyone who condems legalised racing which i still stand by is exactly what you did. Maybe you should re-read it.

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#43 _QIKSLR_

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:36 PM

Anyway, I think the part that we can all aggree on is that we all condem these idiots and hopefully none of us get caught up in it.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:39 PM

^ completely agree

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 02:22 PM

Anyway, I think the part that we can all aggree on is that we all condem these idiots and hopefully none of us get caught up in it.

Yep, with you all the way there, QIKSLR.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 02:30 PM

I had to laugh when I read that mums had children in prams there LOL.. Would there name be Shazza might I ask?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 02:39 PM

these young kids need a place to play with there toys

you play football you go to a football field .. these kids have not many options

bring back andra drag racing in victoria i say ..

the government should wake up and have a look what difference wsid
made in sydney and compare it to melbourne

street racing is bad news ....

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:11 PM

these young kids need a place to play with there toys

you play football you go to a football field .. these kids have not many options

bring back andra drag racing in victoria i say ..

the government should wake up and have a look what difference wsid
made in sydney and compare it to melbourne

street racing is bad news ....

Thats right, Victoria needs a track to the standard of WSID with regular race meets, not just street meets every week, there is constantly upgrades top venues for all other sports bar motorsport

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:15 PM

these young kids need a place to play with there toys

you play football you go to a football field .. these kids have not many options

bring back andra drag racing in victoria i say ..

Well spoken :clap:

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:19 PM

Chamios Hatch, we've been over this one b4. Its easier to reply than do a search though....

sarcasm like that is unwarranted, i was stating a point thats is relavent to the topic, so there is no reason to read old threads.

you state your point, relavent or not, and thats OK.

For someone who sooks about personal attack you dish some out as well.

There are cheaper, environmentally friendly, lower risk and higher physical activity pastimes that all our hoons could be involved in to occupy their spare time, governments needs to tackle the problem of changing this culture

i, like most, would like to hear your suggestions, you either have some or you dont.

and why should the drag racing culture be changed? some people like to play tennis, go shopping, others like drag racing and playing mechanic. its only a problem when done on the street. this is what the authorities should be focusing on. not suppressing drag racing in general as you suggest.

My apologies Chamois Hatch, there was no sarcasm intended at all, I was stating it was easier for me to quickly reply than do a search for a previous thread to link you to..........

As for pastimes, yes its a free country, but there is a difference between what we may want to do and what is reasonably possible and economical.
I dont have a problem with people competing in drag racing, pay their own way, have fun. As you realise it is not an inexpensive sport, just like flying light aeroplanes or large yacht racing or other forms of motor racing etc, it shouldnt be subsidised by the government. So if people cant afford it, thats too bad- doesnt give any one a right to take it to the streets......if they do the full force of the law should be applied.
Other pastimes? perhaps something on two wheels with no motor, a lot of people have fun with that.