toploader?
#1 _oikurtman_
Posted 08 April 2007 - 02:34 PM
I'm thinking either toploader or supra, so I guess I need to look at the pros and cons of each.
Obviously the supra has the extra gear, but how do they line up in terms of strength, difficulty to fit, price, reliability etc.
The way I see it is that toploaders can handle worked 351's, but everyone raves about supra boxes so I'm open ears for any comments.
Cheers.
#2 _LH SL/R 5000_
Posted 08 April 2007 - 03:50 PM
#3 _oikurtman_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:00 PM
Do they fit in the tunnel without mods?
Cheers.
#4 _v8slrtorana_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:04 PM
#5 _oikurtman_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:59 PM
I thought you could get dog-leg shifters to suit?
Edited by oikurtman, 11 April 2007 - 08:00 PM.
#6 _sshatch355_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:11 PM
there site is www.renagate.com
#7 _v8slrtorana_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:26 PM
Ill get a photo 2morrow for you of the mess my mate made trying to fit a hurst v gate shifter.How much grinding? Where abouts?
I thought you could get dog-leg shifters to suit?
Even with the std H pattern shifter, he had to open the std torana shifter hole at the back.
He is a moroon, and didnt he cop it
I day later the 308 blew up, so 350 and turbo 400 went in.
#8 _oikurtman_
Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:30 PM
has anyone else had that problem fitting a toploader?
#9 _grounded_
Posted 12 April 2007 - 04:57 PM
Without a picture that's probably as clear as mud, but if you bolt the shifter to the box, and there are six holes in the shifter to box bracket, you'll see what I mean.
#10
Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:37 PM
next question is can it be made to fit a lc/j.
looked at an lc a while ago, the motor/box was on an angle so the shifter didn't go through the hand brake, but came out beside it, and crossmember was about 50mm off the ground. to help clearance one would think?
no way it was going on a trailor!
if it was possible to make it fit properly, might go see if it is still there!
stupid question number XX, whats a s/h toploader-holden bell housing worth.
and a top loader?
are GT toploaders any different?
#11 _oikurtman_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 05:42 PM
#12 _rorym_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:22 PM
Costs?..S/H bell housing..$150-300
Toploader $500 to $1000
Differences? some GT Falcons had close ratios ..e.g. GTHO Phase 11
R
#13 _dave720gtr_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:58 PM
i have only seen one brake in a hi hp xwgt with brass button clutch
on the drag strip sticky as it snaped the input shalf off on second gear change!
#14 _oikurtman_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 07:22 PM
Has anyone fitted a toploader WITHOUT having to cut or modify the floor pan?
If you did, how much modyfing was it?
^Any chance of a picture grounded?
Is there any difference between the 6 and 8cyl toploaders?
Cheers.
#15 _oikurtman_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:19 PM
(I know absolutley jack sh%t about them)
Cheers.
#16 _dave720gtr_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:45 PM
#17 _oikurtman_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:47 PM
#18 _JNR_ATE_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:55 PM
Cheers
JNR_ATE
#19 _dave720gtr_
Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:55 PM
#20 _oikurtman_
Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:36 PM
#21 _ChevLX_77_
Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:07 PM
#22 _oikurtman_
Posted 19 April 2007 - 08:57 AM
anyone know roughly how many ponies a saginaw can safely handle?
Cheers.
#23 _v8slrtorana_
Posted 21 April 2007 - 10:43 PM
This is the mess made by tring to fit a Hurst V gate shifter. Originally he did have a stock toploader shifter, but the hole required inlargement also.
These are the best pics i got, wish i took photos before the hole was covered up. But atleast you get a idea, maybe
Madmax1
madmax
Im really sure the plate over lap is only 5mm, so thats a big hole
#24 _AquaSLR5000_
Posted 22 April 2007 - 12:26 AM
Saginaws will fit in the tunnel no worries, with only making the shifter hole bigger on one side (for a Hirst type shifter)
Muncies will fit only after a major reconstruction of the tunnel on the passenger side. similar to that of fitting the super T10's. Muncies are way better than Saginaws and both are hard to get parts for these days.
Go the Toploader!!!!!!!If you fit a hirst type shifter you will need to modify the shifter hole.
When doing tunnel mods, take your time and only do bit by bit small mods (bigger holes). It is a pain in the rear putting in and taking out gearboxes and shifters, but it is better to do it slow and painful, than just making a big hole and then patching it.
Get the gear box in and then fit the shifter!!
#25 _oikurtman_
Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:16 AM
If you had a UC running a toploader with no tunnel mods, then I guess the question is, are LH/LX tunnels the same?
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