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How many 1972 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1,s Remain ?

Started by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1 , Jul 13 2007 02:26 PM

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#1 FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:26 PM

IM GUESSING, there may be as few as 20 remaining !
Do you own one ? Dont be shy !

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#2 frash da bucket

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:01 PM

FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, Yeah one here,cheers.

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#3 _Skapinad_

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 04:36 PM

make that 2...

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#4 _xu1972_

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 05:02 PM

I own an 29/8/1972 baroda silver XU-1
you tell me ?

These are the answers I have had already ?

Yes / No / Maybe

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#5 _pete09_

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 05:06 PM

Make that 3, mine being a 9/72 car.

ALJ13015
JP220376 with H252 head
Original, stamped XH/HX camshaft.
Baroda Silver Mk2 in stripped condition.
Authenticated by NZ XU-1 Club as a genuine car.
Presume its a Bathurst car.

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#6 _barodaxu1_

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 06:10 PM

Make that 4 (And the 3rd Baroda Silver Car!). Build 30/08/72.
Regards
barodaxu1

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#7 Loui

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 07:22 PM

10/72 here

Missed out

Cheers

Loui

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#8 _71LCGTR_

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:41 PM

A mate of mine has a Bathurst LJGTRXU1 1973 in glacier white, it has a tan interior and not black .He has had it since the early 80s and it was bought from a policeman in Boulder ,near Kalgoorlie in WA.He never shows this car and rarely drives it .The number of this car was listed in a book by Fiv.

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#9 _smiley_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 06:23 PM

Is this for a numbers matching car or not???
A lot survive without their true hearts and also missing tags

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#10 _big_als_army_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 06:59 PM

If they were missing tags then they would be impossible to identify as genuine so that would surely count them out. A car missing its drivetrain, if all numbers on tags, etc. are matching, would surely still be considered a genuine car. Its the body/ID that makes a car what it is, not the driveline.

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#11 _smiley_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 07:15 PM

WHAT THE ??????
A car missing it`s HEART is still on the money !!!!

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#12 _Skapinad_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 07:18 PM

WHAT THE ??????
A car missing it`s HEART is still on the money !!!!

^^^^agreed...

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#13 _big_als_army_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 07:47 PM

The car's ID is recorded from its VIN tag so if all the tags and numbers match, thats what the car is. Whether it has any running gear or not, it is what it is. A Bathurst XU-1 roller with tags is still a Bathurst XU-1 is it not?

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#14 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 08:02 PM

Was it an XU1 on the production line long before the VIN tags were fitted ?

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#15 _smiley_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 08:06 PM

Al,
The car is incomplete as it left the factory as the HEART has been blown up or stolen!!!!

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#16 _big_als_army_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 08:07 PM

No, the ID tags make the car. The car is ID'd by the tags, with no tags its nothing. There are plenty of GTR's and XU-1s with stolen tags that are worth no more than an S because of the fact that they can not be identified accurately.

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#17 _rorym_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 08:59 PM

10/72 here

Missed out

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Loui

Would be so rushed Loui..all cars after the supposed run had the updated parts fitted...so there for, your car is one too... Dont know if there is a 200 list for the 72 models I am aware of.
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#18 _rorym_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 09:00 PM

No, the ID tags make the car. The car is ID'd by the tags, with no tags its nothing. There are plenty of GTR's and XU-1s with stolen tags that are worth no more than an S because of the fact that they can not be identified accurately.

Agree.
R

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#19 Bazza

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 09:39 PM

HI

I count 244 XU-1s produced by Adelaide between 1 Aug '72 and end Sept '72. They wouldn't all be Bathurst Special specs would they?

Bazza

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#20 _nzgtrxu1_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 10:02 PM

big als army, you couldnta put that any better. What about the most legendary of all xu1s, any car that was actually raced when they were new, the track cars that earned the torana its name. most of those survivors are unlikely to still retain its orig engine as drivers did blow them up every other race. These cars to me are just as desirable & worthy of being counted so long as they have their tags/data, just as any other gtr or xu1 is whether or not orig engine is there.

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#21 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 10:15 PM

To (Identified accurately) definately can"t argue with that.

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#22 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 08:57 AM

On thinking about big als army comment would that they are only an S, Without matching numbers ?

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#23 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 08:59 AM

Sorry left out the mean.

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#24 _big_als_army_

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 09:50 AM

Yes, if you can't identify a car from its tags, you could only say for sure that its a base model so an 'S' at best.

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#25 FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 08:46 PM

HI

I count 244 XU-1s produced by Adelaide between 1 Aug '72 and end Sept '72. They wouldn't all be Bathurst Special specs would they?

Bazza

Baz, my count was 241 (Adelaide)
August (86)
September (155)

August

1-( 0) 7-(10) 14-( 3) 21-( 2) 28-( 2)
2-( 2) 8-( 6) 15-( 0) 22-( 1) 29-( 4)
3-( 4) 9-( 9) 16-( 2) 23-( 2) 30-( 1)
4-( 9) 10-( 4) 17-( 7) 24-( 5) 31-( 0)
11-( 5) 18-( 4) 25-( 4)

September

1-( 9) 4-( 2) 11-( 9) 18-(13) 25-( 6)
5-( 4) 12-( 7) 19-(11) 26-( 4)
6-( 6) 13-( 5) 20-(14) 27-( 2)
7-( 7) 14-( 7) 21-( 9) 28-( 0)
8-(14) 15-(16) 22-( 6) 29-( 4)

I do find it strange that in TOTAL, BRISBANE + ADELAIDE there were only 2 cars built on the 30-8-1972 and NONE on the 31st August 1972.

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Maybe the answers have been starring me in the face all along ?????????

July (Adelaide) 7

L201778 JP168559 BUILT 10-7 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 445
L204078 JP163306 BUILT 14-7 SOLD 8-72 DEALER 366
L205135 JP173526 BUILT 14-7 SOLD 4-73 DEALER 827
L205681 JP168536 BUILT 11-7 SOLD 11-72 DEALER 066
L206229 JP171443 BUILT 3-7 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 451
L206360 JP171449 BUILT 3-7 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 129
L206493 JP171471 BUILT 4-7 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 442

These cars seem to me to have May, June VINS. With the August built cars starting at L210.

The 2 im worried about are
L202297 JP148032 000000000 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 385
L202298 JP147485 000000000 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 385
I have classed these 2 as May built cars.

July (Brisbane) 1

H238742 JP172211 BUILT 10-7 SOLD 7-72 DEALER 909

I feel we are close Baz to knowing the truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your HELP will get us even closer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As R said dont go writing off your 10/72 just yet Loui !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8 Adelaide October built cars appear to have September VINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 (9/72) cars
5 (8/72) cars

Is this the best we can come up with ??????????????????

Cheers, B.