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How many 1972 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1,s Remain ?

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#26 FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 10:11 AM

Has anyone else with the VIN DISC counted the LJ GTR XU-1,s produced at the ADELAIDE plant in the months of AUGUST and SEPTEMBER ????????

Baz (244)
Me (241)

Anyone else ?

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 02:30 PM

Hi FLY_AGAIN_XU-1


I have taken another look at the Adelaide cars for Aug and Sept and I agree with your figure of 241. There were a few 10th month cars "hidden" amongst the others. This leads me to the question; how do cars produced in the following month turn up in with a PSN amid earlier cars?

I created a spreadsheet and it turns out that most of the 10th month cars had engine numbers from a sequence that accords with earlier cars. Is it possible that the 10th month cars are simply typos or input errors and that they are in fact 9th month?

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 07:54 PM

just because the disk is telling you a production date off say 1st 2nd or 3rd of october etc. you will still find the ADR tag will still be stamped 9/72 as when the car started to be made and tag stamped it was in september but by the time it left the factory on a truck was a wwek or so later and thats how you get the production date falling into the next month

Edited by gtr-xu1, 17 July 2007 - 07:56 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 02:23 PM

Bazza
I have ruled out the 8 cars FINISHED in July 1972 as being part of the Bathurst run as these 8 cars have May, June vins.

Yes, FINISHED sounds better than BUILT (Jamie) :spoton:

It appears the Adelaide built cars start at :

L210096

and finish at :

L216000 (With 8 of these cars being FINISHED in October)

Giving me a total of 249 for Adelaide built cars. 250 for Brisbane built cars.

Thus having a grand total of 499. Giving me the impression we have missed 1 in Adelaide some where !

Something I find strange is the amount of Adelaide built cars that have August vins but were finished in September Though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
L211
L212
L213
Adelaide August range from L210 to L213
Adelaide September range from L211 to L216

Any theories on this ???

Ill start hunting for the missing 1

Cheers, B.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 05:18 PM

possably waiting on accelerator firwall linkages to complete the cars so they sat out in the yard all complete except the missing part and were finished weeks later when stock arrived. and yes this sort of thing DID happen from time to time

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 10:22 PM

the people that have said in this thread that they have there august or sept 72 XU1s how many of your cars have the 72 self locating sprintmasters? a full set at that! and are they all 6 month 72 selflocators

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:21 PM

Maybe Jamie ??? This was the debarkle Adelaide was left in after Holden pulled the pin on the V8 LJ Programme. I often do wonder what ever happened to those 200 odd shells ??? I think Ford renamed theres RPO83 ??? No idea what Crysler done with theres ???


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Think i found the missing 1, unless you,ve already got it down as one ???

15.09.72 TLJ 82911 L214049 P219943 76203E0 O O4.73 821 5


Thank heavens Brisbanes are straight forward !


SPRINTMASTERS HOMOLOGATION 2/2V 10-8-1972

This should make for some interesting reading Jamie !!!

I, ve got NO IDEA what my 8/72 car came with ??? Wish i had my HOLDEN PRODUCTION BROADCAST SHEET.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:29 PM

Holden wouldn't be aussie if they bothered to do all the paper work :P

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:30 PM

i dont believe ANY left the assembly line with sprintmasters its been said that they were fitted in a holding yard or at the dealers.

My old set of ...... 72 self locating sprinties were dealer fitted to a late 72 car

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:09 AM

I,ve seen 3 different dates on 1972 selflocaters.

6/72 9/72 and 11/72

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:04 AM

just looked at 3 HOLDEN PRODUCTION BROARDCAST sheets

1. page 95 Fiv book. sept72 Adelade build XU1 <TYRES 5(175 SR 13 RADIAL PLY)
2. August 72 BRISBANE BUILT XU1 <TYRES 5(175 SR 13 RADIAL PLY)
3.August 73 Adelade build XU1 <TYRES 5 (B70H13 4 PLY H-PERF. BLACKWALL)
anyone out there got a broad cast sheet for a pre 8/72 XU1?

all three show wheels 55R black

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:14 AM

Bazza
Think i found the missing 1, unless you,ve already got it down as one ???

15.09.72  TLJ  82911  L214049  P219943  76203E0  O  O4.73  821  5




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Hi FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

Nope - I didn't have that one either (they tried to trick us by entering the Options Code for a GTR). I wonder if the data entry girl ever considered that someone may pick up her errors 35 years down the track?



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Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:51 AM

I wonder if the data entry girl ever considered that someone may pick up her errors 35 years down the track?

She was kind enough to leave us the JP engine number and the 3.36 diff ratio though !!!!!!! What a job that would a been !!!!! Done Brissy yet ?

Jamie CPL (Chrome Plated Lining) ???????

Edited by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, 19 July 2007 - 01:57 AM.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 02:25 AM

my guess is CPL is code for center cap and outer dress trim. and the torana S with clip on hub caps and trims would have another code as this is in the "wheel trim" box on the buid sheet

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:46 PM

Hi

I have examined the Brisbane XU-1s from 1 Aug and end Sept '72.

I have established a figure of 250 but have included H248465 12/9/72 (GTR codes) with engine P219807.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 02:29 PM

The ADR plate should never be considered exact, many have incorrect date stamps and not only the Torana's. My XU1 is 39 on the line but 41 of it with a production date of 1/2/1972 but my ADR plate says Jan 72.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 03:06 PM

Hi

I have examined the Brisbane XU-1s from 1 Aug and end Sept '72.

I have established a figure of 250 but have included H248465 12/9/72 (GTR codes) with engine P219807.

Bazza

G/Day Bazza

I to came up with 250 but instead of using H248465 i added H250907 which was finished on 6-10-1972. The reason being H248465 (GTR ?) has the same engine number (JP219807) as H248468 and also H248465 has the 3.08 diff ratio.


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The production date is when the car was finished not started !

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 04:31 PM

The ADR plate should never be considered exact, many have incorrect date stamps and not only the Torana's. My XU1 is 39 on the line but 41 of it with a production date of 1/2/1972 but my ADR plate says Jan 72.

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Hi Guys.

The official definition of the ADR date, for an Australian built car, is when the "engine is co-joined with the chassis or frame".

The production date (AFAIK) is the day the car is driven from the line.

So your car still fits. The engine probably when into the car on the 31/1/72 & then driven off the production line the next day (1/2/72).

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 07:48 PM

I have seen 3 different dates on 1972 selflocaters, 6/72, 9/72 & 11/72
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The last 2 photos ^^^^^^^^^^^^ are of Bondy & Brocky at the FIRST ROUND of the 1972 MANUFACTURERS CHAMPIONSHIP held at Adelaide International on Sunday 27-8-1972. Bondy went on to win round 1. Moffat went on to win the championship in his PHASE 3. I think we all know what happened in ROUND 3 on Sunday 1-10-1972 though dont we ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 08:02 PM

Are production sheets available ?

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 08:27 PM

have to correct you on those photos, the silver bond car pic was taken much earlier in the year at adelaide, as both the new brock /bond cars were in the new red/white hdt colours at adelaide 27/8/72, and the pics of brock is at bathurst 72 , just check the flag/decal on the door. cheers daz :D :D

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 08:32 PM

and getting back to the point of this thread i can account for 2, no 1 is a 3/8/72 the no 2 is a 1/9/72. :D :D

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 10:46 AM

Are production sheets available ?

Not that im aware of ? We only have the vin disk (Fishe) to go off !

It appears that maybe 200 were built in August, 300 in September ! 500 in total.

My Theory

200 August (Sprintmasters)
300 September (XH Cam,200) (3.55 diff ratio,100) Same as Bathurst 71 cars.

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 05:48 PM

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This is all i,ve got on round 1 Adelaide 27-8-1972

Thanks to Wingnut(JR)

Any one else got some pics or info ?

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 05:54 PM

Are production sheets available ?

For 1970-1971 (Yes) For 1972-1973 (No) ?

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