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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:06 AM

And here is another set below, that has sold for $4550:-
 
HOLDEN LJ TORANA SEDAN 2 DOOR
1,2,3,4,5A,7,8,10A,11,12,14,15,20,22,25,26.
06/72      ALJ 06834A
VIN         82911JL204475
MODEL    LJ82911
BODY No. 20-A
TRIM       1843-40 X
PAINT     568-13885
SELLING GENUINE XU1 TAGS, INGRAVED ON THE BACK OF ONE TAG FROM NEW IS 4475 ( I CAN LEGALLY SELL THESE TAGS,  AS FOR DISPLAY PURPOSE ONLY, SO PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME IF NEGATIVE ATTITUDE ) GREAT FOR A MAN CAVE.  THEY COME OFF A TORANA APPROX 20 YEARS AGO FROM WA . THE CAR WAS WRECKED MANY YEARS AGO. ( NOT WRITTEN OFF ) , ALSO SELLING OTHER LJ TORANA PARTS. PH ROB 0423928241 THANKS
http://www.gmh-toran...ags-on-fleabay/

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:24 AM

ALJ14419A
VIN: 8B11BCL218637J

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BODY No. 2496-A

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 10:52 AM

Hi

 

The tags in post #499 above are non-matching. The VIN is GTR (not XU-1) completed 19/4/72  and the ADR and Body Identification tags are from 10/72.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:00 AM

The tags in post #499 above are non-matching. The VIN is GTR (not XU-1) completed 19/4/72  and the ADR and Body Identification tags are from 10/72.

 

This happens a lot and you'll see mis-matching tags on the same car in quite a few instances. This post isn't really to inform people whether the tags they're buying are matching; I'm sure most here are against the selling of tags as they're likely to end up in the wrong hands. As long as we have the details typed into the posts; when people run a Google search on the numbers of the car they're buying, they will know something's not legit if the numbers appear here.

 

Nicely spotted though; just goes to show how shonky these sellers are.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 25 May 2016 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:19 AM

Hi Stephen

 

Have I just been lectured as the purpose of this thread? Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Oh, forget it.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:50 PM

Hi Stephen

 

Have I just been lectured as the purpose of this thread? Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Oh, forget it.

 

Cheers

 

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lol, you must be a newbie here Bazza.



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:54 PM

lol, you must be a newbie here Bazza.

 

d'Oh. Didn't notice the post count. lol. Am spending too much time on fb where it's all noobs.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 01:46 PM

lol, you must be a newbie here Bazza.

 

G'day Dave

 

Yep - been here for 11 years but don't say much unless it is important or it simply needs to be said.

 

Some 'expert' on one of the Torana Facebook sites told me a couple of months ago that I should - 'get my shit together before I make a comment about tags'. I understand that he is an official of one of the Torana clubs. The irony is that 2 of the members of the same club (one of whom is also an official) texts me regularly about tag info. I had a good laugh about that one.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 01:50 PM

Bazza help's us by saying what matches and what doesn't,

 

 and on a side note,

 

the crook's have the money to buy all the tags for sale and possibly match up the mixed one's.



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 01:54 PM

Some 'expert' on one of the Torana Facebook sites told me a couple of months ago that I should - 'get my shit together before I make a comment about tags'. I understand that he is an official of one of the Torana clubs. The irony is that 2 of the members of the same club (one of whom is also an official) texts me regularly about tag info. I had a good laugh about that one.

 

That facebook page is full of experts, lol. They'll tell you how a mate of a mate's cousin heard it from a guy that worked at a used car lot that sold 2nd and 3rd hand Toranas; so it has to be true.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:08 PM

Hi

 

The point of mentioning that a set of tags that are being offered for sale don't match, is an attempt to dissuade potential buyers from going ahead with the purchase. Further, it underscores that a lot of people have their finger on the pulse of what's going on and that the buyer of such tags could stand to lose a lot of money.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:18 PM

Fight crime with the same media by,

 

 placing an ad in ebay that directs people to this thread,

 

 and select the duration of the ad to 'Good 'Til Cancelled'.



as this thread is public.



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:25 PM

Fight crime with the same media by,
 
 placing an ad in ebay that directs people to this thread,
 
 and select the duration of the ad to 'Good 'Til Cancelled'.
as this thread is public.


That is one of the best ideas you've come up with Dave !!

Then again, perhaps it's better sellers don't cotton on to the fact they should cover some of the numbers ?

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:28 PM

Sounds like a good idea Dave. I wouldn't know where to start, so go for it buddy.



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:27 PM

If you buy a Torana and dont do your homework your a stupid Cunning Stunt
tags or no tags

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:32 PM

The point of mentioning that a set of tags that are being offered for sale don't match, is an attempt to dissuade potential buyers from going ahead with the purchase. Further, it underscores that a lot of people have their finger on the pulse of what's going on and that the buyer of such tags could stand to lose a lot of money.

 

The 'official' excuse to buy tags is to hang them up in the shed, garage, display cabinet, etc. The fact they don't match should really be no issue; it's not like the buyer is going to sell their shed and advertise it 'complete with tags, numbers matching'. If they buy non-matching tags to put on a car, it's better for us; we can then spot the frauds.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:34 PM

Fight crime with the same media by,
 
 placing an ad in ebay that directs people to this thread,
 
 and select the duration of the ad to 'Good 'Til Cancelled'.
as this thread is public.

Thats ok if your looking to buy on Ebay not all cars are for sale on Ebay

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:02 PM

If you ask the seller of the tags a question on ebay. The question and answer should show up on screen for all to sell. I was going to ask him if the tags match and see what he says..What do you think???????



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:05 PM

If you ask the seller of the tags a question on ebay. The question and answer should show up on screen for all to see.

 

They don't have to answer and if they do, the answer only appears if they select the box to make the answer public. If they don't answer your question doesn't appear.

 

How dodgy is that sale above where he even includes the section with the chassis no. Nobody collects those; he's 100% selling it to appeal to rebirthers.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:07 PM

100%



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:14 PM

I sent him a message anyway..  See what he says , if anything...



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:26 PM

He says there matching tags.



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:49 PM

Yeah they are. They just match two different cars, that's all. :)



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:09 AM

He says there matching tags.

 

Hi

 

He was probably told that when he bought the car. If he believes that it is true, then he would also have to believe that out of the first 6834 LJ Toranas made in Adelaide in the first 6 months of production, only 20 were GTRs or XU-1s. In fact, there were approximately 545 GTRs and XU-1s by the time that L204475 was produced. The correct Body Number should be close to 545-A.

 

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:24 AM

He was probably told that when he bought the car.

 

... or he believes his car was legit when he bought it.

 

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