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[mr5000]

i reckon something that won bathurst is a definate winer for a muscle car f6 as no 1 is load of poo even in chapel street cruisers it wouldnt make any higher than number 2

[mr5000]

[REDA9X]

2008 FPV F6 ???? YEAH RIGHT!!!

That is not a muscle car! Its not even a V8!!!

Um hello the XU1 and Chargers are not V8's

[MRLXSS]

Oh, Older 6cyls are ok, they are N/A... Actually, more i think of it.... A Muscle car should have a Carby...

MT, I'm talking factory muscle cars.... If your car came like it is, from the factory... Then I wouldn't class it as a Muscle Car.... Just like a VL Turbo isnt a Muscle car

So people missed my other comment....

[yel327]

Just received a free copy of the latest Motor Magazine, August 2009 edition.

I don't usually read it but it has an interesting article that I though I'd share. They have rated the top 10 Aussie Muscle Cars.

Six Holdens made the top 10 which is a pretty good result but did they get the top 10 right?

Anyway, here's the list.

Mick.

1. 2008 FPV F6

2. 1977 Holden Torana A9X

3. 1985 HDT VK SS Group A

4. 1971 XY Falcon GT HO

5. 1967 XR Falcon GT

6. 1988 HSV VL Group A

7. 1969 Holden HT Monaro 350

8. 1972 Holden Torana GTR XU-1

9. 2008 HSV W427

10. 1972 VH Charger E49.

I haven't read it so i'll go lightly. But most of those cars are not "Muscle cars" by the original US definition. Valuable and collectable - yes. There is probably only two genuine (to the purist) muscle cars on the list - HT GTS350 (manual only) and XY GT-HO. Throw in the XU-1 (why 1972, not 1973?) and the E49 and you might have a few more.
The two Group A's belong in another era, as do the W427 and F6 in a later era again. Time will judge the F6 for what it is (i'm guessing junk in 20 years).
XR GT - special car but not a muscle car.
And A9X, very very special car but not a true muscle car (just like an XC Bathurst spec Cobra), different rules for different times, and more collectable than almost all Aussie cars anyway.
The cars that stick out as missing altogether are the LH L34, XW GT-HO phase II, LC XU-1 and VH E38. And possibly an XA RPO83.

[Collo]

I would replace the A9X with the L34 myself, if we're talking about cars that were on the road.

But F6 as no.1? No...

Edited by slr_v8, 17 July 2009 - 12:03 AM.

[Collo]

I agree about the Phase 3 being above the Toranas...Despite personal preference, the Phase 3 is a beast of a car...and you could drive one on the road...

Edited by slr_v8, 17 July 2009 - 01:15 AM.

[TerrA LX]

And by your rule any average handling car with poor brakes and a V8 engine is a muscle car? Ha ha.

That would be just about every Falcon GT and Monaro GTS produced in the late 60's early 70's eh?

[xu2308]

The Top Aussie muscle cars ever are the won thats got banned i say LOL
No.1 The 1972 V8 LJ XU-1 160mph plus from the factory
No.2 The 1972 V8 XA GTHO Phase 4,with its 400 H.P 351 V8
NO.3 The 1972 V8 E55 R/T Charger,340 V8,4 speed
And the only thing that has come close to them is the 2008 HSV W427 Dore
So for me they are the Cars,that i have listed above,But a 1977 LX A9X Hatch could sneak on the list Due to its Two Awesome Bathurst Wins in 1978,1979.
The Supercar Scare put us backwards in Beasty Cars untill the 2008 HSV W427,yet our Stupid Goverment Bans the Home Grown 1972 beasty's,but you could buy a Ferrari or Lambo in 1972 if you had the Loot to get one,what a Joke.

[yel327]

whats the go with the question mark next to the 73 xu1,the bathurst cars were the toughest xu1s ever built and to think anyone could buy one and drive it on the road,these were true muscle cars .

Yeah I agree. Regardless of what else is on the list, why would anyone put a 1972 XU-1 on any such list over a 1973? Just shows you how much credibility the article authors might really have.

[yel327]

I just read what they've wriiten. Waste of $8.95, don't bother. The article is about as credible as front page news. Examples:

500 x A9X's built, of which 95 were sedans.

LJ XU-1 scored over the LC XU-1 a bored out 186 and triple carbs.

The August 1969 HT GTS350 got revised suspension from the HK (it was identical to HK in suspension when it was released)

And those are just three things I know about, so I can only imagine the other BS in the words.

I'll write them a letter to the editor and see if they publish it!

[yel327]

The Top Aussie muscle cars ever are the won thats got banned i say LOL
No.1 The 1972 V8 LJ XU-1 160mph plus from the factory
No.2 The 1972 V8 XA GTHO Phase 4,with its 400 H.P 351 V8
NO.3 The 1972 V8 E55 R/T Charger,340 V8,4 speed
And the only thing that has come close to them is the 2008 HSV W427 Dore
So for me they are the Cars,that i have listed above,But a 1977 LX A9X Hatch could sneak on the list Due to its Two Awesome Bathurst Wins in 1978,1979.
The Supercar Scare put us backwards in Beasty Cars untill the 2008 HSV W427,yet our Stupid Goverment Bans the Home Grown 1972 beasty's,but you could buy a Ferrari or Lambo in 1972 if you had the Loot to get one,what a Joke.

The VH E55 is a virtual muscle car in it's own right, regardless of whether it was ever intended to run a 4spd. 340ci, 10.5:1 comp, steel crank. Pretty potent engine strangled by a straw for an exhaust just like Holden did to the HK and HT 307. I saw an old Wheels or Motor magazine from 1972/3 where they put an aftermarket exhaust on one and it trounced the E49 over the quarter which was the fastest 70's Aussie car over the quarter, even quicker than the PhaseII. The E55 with good exhaust pulled high 13's from memory.

[MRLXSS]

A Muscle car shouldn't have power steering! You should need "muscles" to drive it!

[mr5000]

haha i like that one

[76lxhatch]

When do my cars arrive? The boxes I ticked at the top are a shopping list, right?