On topic, I'll try and get the info about the tanks to post up. �If it means trying to get one for some of us to look at, we'll do that.
As much as I don't want to get into a slanging match -�
Where is the politics? �We haven't started it. �It's due to a couple of factions and users squabbling. �If you have a different view on any issue, that's fine, but we have to accomodate 100's or 1000's of members, and if there is a minority view, we can't just shift everything to take that line when the majority are very happy.
We have rules and requirements, some stricter than other forums, some not so strict, but all expected to be abided by. �It's the members choice to follow them and stay or not to...� Users get let off everyday from breaking them because it's not worth the drama. �And if you have issues with any rules, let us know and we'll discuss it.
This place has been around�
alot longer than most of the users, and the majority of issues are from those who haven't been here for the long haul. �We have developed this place over more than 10yrs and at least 5-6 incarnations, and it has slowly evolved to one of the best set out forums anywhere. �We added the posting forms to the Swap to help you the members get the most out of the Swapmeet. �As we've had to modify them for the new forum chassis, we took to manually making sure the posts are correct. �For the users, due to many many requests and issues.
If it's too hard to understand ask another question and we'll answer it. �And hopefully we can clarify any issues. �PM is best, but preferably not in this thread.
If you don't appreciate the work we do, well that doesn't worry me, this place is here for all enthusiasts (even those without Toranas
) and that won't change.
Agreed, it is a loss when some members leave, but it's their choice and we support that. �But it is also a loss to them, and this is evident in the number of users who do return later (and some even come back more willing to be a part of this little village than before - Hi Pat
) �Other times, well, it is no loss for us, and in some cases of benefit to the forum and the membership as a whole. �That's just the way it is.
This forum will continue, and will always be about the members and what is best for them as a whole, not for any particular user or group. �We will always welcome anyone with open arms, but at the end of the day, either you play nice and respect others here, or you don't........... �Everyone has a number of chances to learn the rules, and all have the opportunity to ask questions as they see fit.
There have been a number of rumblings over the past few months. �There have been a few complaints, which have been acted upon. �The majority of grumblers don't seem to see the value in telling US what their issue is, preferring to talk amongst other users. �That's fine, but don't expect us to fix petty issues when no-one has the guts to bring them up - we don't bite, and I'm sure all those who we've helped are happy that we are here for them.
Enough. �Any further off topic issues will be removed. �Please PM the Admin team to discuss and if need be we'll start a topic for particular issues.
Grant..