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[Toranavista]

Was a Brand New LJ XU-1 Shell from Holden in the day,be Deemed a new car or just a spare part from the Spare Parts Bin,like ordering a new roof for a LJ or a new Qrt Panel etc.

For a brand bew LJ Holden shell it would need a VIN number which incorporates a Production Sequence Number to be considered a newly produced car.
It would then need to be internally presented for ADR compliance to be registered for road use in Australia.

[enderwigginau]

 Muwhahahahaw ^^ 

[Bart]

If they can't even make a dress rim the same as original ,and I have been told the ribs on the petrol tank are not the same as the originals, the carpet is wrong , rubbers wrong ,front indicators , clutch rat trap parts and many other repo parts , not like the originals , the chances a repo shell is going to be the same is remote ! It will just be another nail in the coffin and further bring out the doubt ,of restored factory Performance cars being genuine .With that , goes the overall lowering of their value.

I believe there are tools these days to be able to make dies to make panels very close or close to exact to the original. Its a mater of money for development and how much one wants to spend. But it is possible.
From what i have read, even the factory dies were off and the first time and had to be tweaked or even scrapped and made again.

[GTR-1]

I heard a story about 5 years ago a guy in NZ brought a spare A9X shell ie was supplied by Holden as a replacement shell for a A9X race car however for what ever reason shell was never used and then this guy buys it and builds show car out of it but had a hard time registering in NZ which from what I have seen heard is usually easier then then OZ. He did get it registered eventully

This is the car you are talking about

Could be, I thought it was a light shade of green but I only saw it the once and it was 5 years ago, the rear is massiely tubed and it has all drag / show car kit in it, at the time he was trailoring the thing around so I wasn't paying much attention, my interest is mainly in street driven cars

Do you know the real story behind the car as I only heard it 2nd - 5th hand so have no idea of the facts only the story that was being told

This is the car. It just looks dark in the pic. It's painted Porscher Ascot Green.
The facts are right. Started as a unused spare race car shell, no rust, straight as a die.
The thing still just gets trailored around and used as a display car. He did build it to drive it on the road but had trouble getting it registered. Haven't seen the car for a while but I'm pretty sure the thing is still not registered.
The tubs are not that big, maybe enlarged by a couple of inches. Will try to get some updated info on it for you soon

[xu2308]

The Feb 1972 Torana 'LJ' series Parts Catalogue Book
Parts&Accessories Division of General Motors Holden Pty. Ltd
A Holden Publication

In the Body Section in the Book on Page 333,there a List of Body Shells,the XU-1 Shell is under

Group
10.002 BODY SHELL-Less doors&deck lid(in Prime)

The XU-1 BODY SHELL is part number 2819678, Quanty 1

So buy the Look of the Parts Catalogue,you could buy a new shell for your XU-1,over the counter at your Holden Dealer Spare Parts Department,go in and ask for Part Number 2819678,the freight might of been a Killer.

So as a spare part it would only have 2819678 wrote on it or a GMH Sticker etc with that part number,So if you Crashed your LJ XU-1 back in the day and the shell was stuffed.And if you GOT A panel beater chosen to do the mission if you had enough the money to fix it,he would swap your Crashed XU-1 Body Stuff into your new Part,namely new Body Shell.
But your crashed XU-1 would really Become Part Number 2819678 (XU-1) Or because its a Spare part,itS still your Old crashed LJ XU-1 with a new big spare part. ??????????????

[wot179]

Ive seen some of the XY foulcan stuff thats being repo'd at the moment.

I dont know who makes it,or if there are multiple manufacturers.

No panels or bars,mind you.

But grills,blinker asemblies,consoles,dashes etc.

Everything I have seen has been junk,poor quality that only kinda fits,at best.

And it all costs a bomb.

Maybe the Holden stuff will be better,but I wouldnt hold my breath.

[meanmachine72]

[quote name='xu2308' date='21 January 2010 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1264064218' post='473030']
The Feb 1972 Torana 'LJ' series Parts Catalogue Book
Parts&Accessories Division of General Motors Holden Pty. Ltd
A Holden Publication

In the Body Section in the Book on Page 333,there a List of Body Shells,the XU-1 Shell is under

Group
10.002 BODY SHELL-Less doors&deck lid(in Prime)

The XU-1 BODY SHELL is part number 2819678, Quanty 1

So buy the Look of the Parts Catalogue,you could buy a new shell for your XU-1,over the counter at your Holden Dealer Spare Parts Department,go in and ask for Part Number 2819678,the freight might of been a Killer.

So as a spare part it would only have 2819678 wrote on it or a GMH Sticker etc with that part number,So if you Crashed your LJ XU-1 back in the day and the shell was stuffed.And if you GOT A panel beater chosen to do the mission if you had enough the money to fix it,he would swap your Crashed XU-1 Body Stuff into your new Part,namely new Body Shell.
But your crashed XU-1 would really Become Part Number 2819678 (XU-1) Or because its a Spare part,itS still your Old crashed LJ XU-1 with a new big spare part. ??????????????
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geez thats what a gampa shell is.....24C twice removed from original...glad its not mine....!!!!

[xu2308]

GMPA wasent around in 1972,maybe the Spare parts Shell comes with New Tags and New Chassis Number,i dont know it dosent state in the Parts Catalologue,but going off the HDT 24C Prime Car you would think so.

[xu2308]

And you look at all the repo stuff out now(Torana)and put it up against a original component,its not the same so I can't see theses complete shells if they come out not the same.

Well least you will spot a Wanna-Be LJ XU-1 Car from China easy as lol,the Old LJ' will be like Elvis soon with all the Fake nearly look alike Elvis's (China XU-1's) getting around

Do we call the new LJ Shells The knockoffs

[enderwigginau]

The LC/J shells would have been NASCO, and at that time they probably didn't come with tags or chassis number as they were meant to replace your damaged shell. �And just like NASCO L34 or GMP&A A9X shells, rego would have accepted the changeover as you were changing to a new, unused shell, not reshelling from a possibly pre-damaged shell.

Grant..