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[rodomo]

Classic example IMHO is HQ +
Chassis number stamped on chassis or rails.
Tags riveted to body.

What would you do if you had a rusted out Sandman body shell on your near perfect chassis?

Cut and shut nothing.

Edited by rodomo, 02 January 2010 - 09:00 PM.

[TerrA LX]

Now i'll start saying "reshell" and press my point why i think that is wrong.....

Cheers.

No blood lost.
Just want to carify WHAT IS ILLEGAL ABOUT IT?
Im not arguing if it is RIGHT or WRONG...

Edited by TerrA LX, 03 January 2010 - 01:05 AM.

[GTR-1]

I heard a story about 5 years ago a guy in NZ brought a spare A9X shell ie was supplied by Holden as a replacement shell for a A9X race car however for what ever reason shell was never used and then this guy buys it and builds show car out of it but had a hard time registering in NZ which from what I have seen heard is usually easier then then OZ. He did get it registered eventully
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This is the car you are talking about

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Edited by GTR-1, 03 January 2010 - 06:20 AM.

[enderwigginau]

quote from australian written off register"a repaiired vehicle must not have it's identifiers removed inculding it's vin compliance plates and engine nos"
and amc "it is illegeal to transfer body identification and compliance plates onto another body shell"
no chasis numbers or vin unlicencable
only way round that is to reuse your orginal numbers
end result is you have commited an illegal act and if you then sell the car as genuine��you have commited a crime
and then you are liable for the difference in cost to��the new buyer
good idea don't get me wrong but is for race or show use only


not sure but yeah would say any way you do it
it would be illegal on the road
and unable to be sold as the real thing without commiting a crime
hence illegal

Can I just clarify that there ARE legal ways of doing it, but in the main it is just not a possibility. �You are changing the legal identity of a vehicle and this is the important thing. �


And if you get it done legally then you have an obligation to tell buyers when you sell.

"Replica built with genuine parts" is a very good analogy.

Grant..

[TerrA LX]

not saying it can't be done
just pointing out is an illegal act to pass off as the genuine thing after doing the reshell
and would be a bitch to register
if you wanted a race/show car then this would be the perfect base to start with
but not as a replacement for your project
to big a can of worms to open and you'd leave yourself open to the bad wrath of fembitsable care

Not saying new shells would ever be accepted as "the genuine thing" but it has been done and accepted in the past.


A9X Club welcomes them

Edited by TerrA LX, 03 January 2010 - 11:44 AM.

[dattoman]

Um...GMP+A and Nasco shells weren't just for race teams
They could be bought as replacement shells for damaged cars and legally registered

The race shells were different.. but still had at least one tag on them... passengers side cowl

I'm sure theres a few reshells out there that aren't exactly legit
But after they change hands a few times things get muddied and lost in the system
Cars change states
Get engine bays smoothed or parts/panels replaced

It may not be an "all original" car but its still a car... value is in the eye of the beholder... not the opinions of the couch potatoes and armchair experts

[xu2308]

I think for 10 years Holden used to make Parts for Cars that were brand new,back in the day,Now if you bought a new XU-1 Shell for example,Back in the early 1980's,would it be Chassis number Stamped and ware I.D Plates or would it be Blank on the Chassis Number Etc
Im Guessing it would be I.D Stamped,as the new Shell they used to Transplant Colin Bonds LJ XU-1 Parts into from the wrecked HDT LJ XU-1 from the 1972 Bathurst Race,which is Darryl Cain old Car had Prime on the I.D Plate,so im Guessing any Replacement Shells from GMH are called Prime Shells and ware I.D Plates you would think.
Or did GMH leave new shells blank on there chassis numbers with no I.D Plates for say for a Example a Panel Beater ordered a new shell from Holden Spare Parts to replace a LJ XU-1 Shell that had been wrote off,and the Panel beater was transplanting the stuff into the XU-1 Shell,would the Shell be deemed as Spare parts in the day,as like a new Roof panel Replacement Etc.
Or would GMH deem it as a New Car back then,Just food for thought

[xu2308]

read gmp+a
no adr plate and gmp+a stamed on complaince plate
"some are stamped with chassis nos some are not"






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I think Darryl Cain's old Car only had Prime on the Plate,No GMP A stamped on his Car,im guessing GMP A was more used i guess in the A9X time frame,where Prime would of been in the LJ time frame ????????

[enderwigginau]

Not saying new shells would ever be accepted as "the genuine thing" but it has been done and accepted in the past.

A9X Club welcomes them

Ummm, try and understand that this is a totally different situation.

GMP&A shells basically only existed as spare shells for the race teams (the ones that weren't sent straight up to certain teams!).

These new shells have absolutely nothing to do with the GMP&A shells.  So if they released hatch shells, then the A9X club WON'T accept something reshelled with a 2010 shell as a 77-79 vehicle..............

Grant..

PS. Before GMP&A (the parts bin) existed shells were supplied by NASCO.  All four door (L34) spare shells were NASCO supplied.

[xu2308]

Was a Brand New LJ XU-1 Shell from Holden in the day,be Deemed a new car or just a spare part from the Spare Parts Bin,like ordering a new roof for a LJ or a new Qrt Panel etc.

[Statler]

Just curious....but what was the factory code for Beijeing?