Hi,
now i have used a aussie dizzy from above place^^^^^^ i can tell u they wernt cheaper when i brought on then it brought its own rev limmiter into engine around 6,500rpm we couldent get rid of it ill refrain from using names but after a few phone calls back and forth we came to conclsion that i need to get somthing that works i removed that dizzy put it in cubboard it stayed in there for quite a few years then the company got back onto me as anothe bloke had one intown here and was having the same dramas and he had found a fix for it so i thought ill send it to him as its no use to me how it is buy this time i had a msd one it was around 50clams less than what i had paid for the aussie one. after 3 years of him having it i got it back last year with new coil new leads and fixed up all for nothing witch i thought was g8 so it then sat in spare room for proberly 3 months then i gave it away to my uncle to try he said it works a treat.
but i now have msd stuff and doubt id change now.
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msd dizzy clearence problems
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:01 PM
btw how much did u pay for the msd set up,lx308
Honestly don't know. I would have to find the engine invoice. Somewhere around $1,100 I reckon.
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btw how much did u pay for the msd set up,lx308
Honestly don't know. I would have to find the engine invoice. Somewhere around $1,100 I reckon.
i just paid $1130 for pro billet dizzy, blaster 3 coil&bracket, 6AL digital ignition box,and a set of 8.5mm msd leads last week from rocket.
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IIIMMMM BBAAACCCKKKK....
Didnt think i would let this one rest did yas???
I have snipped this a bit to make it easyer to reply, but i have not actually changed any words phrases or sentences.
Not sure if they make these for a 308 to be honest, but yes you can get these jiggers
That said, your original argument was and i quote from post 29 on 24 January 2010 - 07:21 PM:
". the dizzys dont need to be graphed ever.free to change camshafts without having to regraph.this saves money time,and mucking around,easier to sort your car."
Most MSD dizzys are free to regraph at any time, they come with all the springs, advance stops and that kinda shit you could ever need, and it only takes a couple of minutes to change them. Ok the dials are slightly quicker but thats the ONLY difference.
The box doesnt control the advance/retard, the dizzy does. Im not 100% sure they would interchange but i reckon they would.
I run this on my LJ. Will probably get the same one for my LH when i start collecting bits for the Chev.
Have a glance through the speck sheet.....Doesnt actually list everything it does, and you can get far better ones than that.
These have a speck sheet longer than your arm if you look them up, and these are just stupidly packed full to tricky shit you can play with, but still not the top of the line.
Open your eyes and do some research before you run around blatantly stating this and that and no one will argue with you.
In closing i have no problem with you liking ICE better than MSD. But to outright say that ICE is better with obviously no idea what your on about was where i got a bit annoyed.
At best i would agree that they could be on par, if you wanted to spend more to get less, and i do like the fact that the aussies have taken it to a global market on something. There is just no way they can compete with the massive amount of R&D and the budgets that Autronic has to make new and better stuff at affordable prices.
As i have already stated having to cut the firewall lip on my SL is absolutely no worries to me, but i can understand why someone with a SS or higher model would heasitate, which does make the ICE dizzy an attractive proposition, though I would explore other avenues first personally.
Also, little tip guys, never buy anything from Rocket that you can get from the states......
Cheers.
Didnt think i would let this one rest did yas???
I have snipped this a bit to make it easyer to reply, but i have not actually changed any words phrases or sentences.
as far as i know all msd dizzys have weights and springs in them for the adavance.is this true ?.if not what is the part number for one that doesnt,that fits a 350 chev or 308 ?.
i was lead to belive that msd uses weights and springs,for advance,and ice does not.which is a big part of why i believe ice is better
Not sure if they make these for a 308 to be honest, but yes you can get these jiggers
That said, your original argument was and i quote from post 29 on 24 January 2010 - 07:21 PM:
". the dizzys dont need to be graphed ever.free to change camshafts without having to regraph.this saves money time,and mucking around,easier to sort your car."
Most MSD dizzys are free to regraph at any time, they come with all the springs, advance stops and that kinda shit you could ever need, and it only takes a couple of minutes to change them. Ok the dials are slightly quicker but thats the ONLY difference.
i 100% know my dizzy has no weights or springs in it,so im not sure a msd box will run an ice dizzy,what makes u think they interchange ?
The box doesnt control the advance/retard, the dizzy does. Im not 100% sure they would interchange but i reckon they would.
what is the system u have,and what are the extra features,it has that i dont ?
I run this on my LJ. Will probably get the same one for my LH when i start collecting bits for the Chev.
Have a glance through the speck sheet.....Doesnt actually list everything it does, and you can get far better ones than that.
These have a speck sheet longer than your arm if you look them up, and these are just stupidly packed full to tricky shit you can play with, but still not the top of the line.
Open your eyes and do some research before you run around blatantly stating this and that and no one will argue with you.
In closing i have no problem with you liking ICE better than MSD. But to outright say that ICE is better with obviously no idea what your on about was where i got a bit annoyed.
At best i would agree that they could be on par, if you wanted to spend more to get less, and i do like the fact that the aussies have taken it to a global market on something. There is just no way they can compete with the massive amount of R&D and the budgets that Autronic has to make new and better stuff at affordable prices.
As i have already stated having to cut the firewall lip on my SL is absolutely no worries to me, but i can understand why someone with a SS or higher model would heasitate, which does make the ICE dizzy an attractive proposition, though I would explore other avenues first personally.
Also, little tip guys, never buy anything from Rocket that you can get from the states......
Cheers.
Edited by Bomber Watson, 28 January 2010 - 07:55 PM.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 09:34 PM
I buy stuff from Rocket all the time
The price is quite similar once compared to Summit adding on their international fee and freight
If theres a big margin of course I go US
But theres still some things I source local
I spoke to ICE today
They are phasing out their 6 amp stuff and switching to 7 amp for their basic gear
Their box also now is 100 not 10 parameters
Its also digital so no noise from the control box
Up to personal choice
I'm not buying right now ... but when the time comes...I'll weigh up all the options and speak to my tuner
The price is quite similar once compared to Summit adding on their international fee and freight
If theres a big margin of course I go US
But theres still some things I source local
I spoke to ICE today
They are phasing out their 6 amp stuff and switching to 7 amp for their basic gear
Their box also now is 100 not 10 parameters
Its also digital so no noise from the control box
Up to personal choice
I'm not buying right now ... but when the time comes...I'll weigh up all the options and speak to my tuner
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Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
I have compared, i have shopped, and i have purchased from the states, got the final bill and compared again. Usually works out around 20% cheaper each order i do.
I can see your point, but....
Naturally some stuff you cant buy from Summit or Jegs, but what i can for me it works out better from them.
Take the Digital 6 i have in my LJ, cost me $690. Its on the Summit site for $287.95. I cauld order that, pay there extra $15 O/S handling fee, convert it to AUD and pay $100AUD postage (wouldent be near that) and the price is still just over half....
Cheers.
I have compared, i have shopped, and i have purchased from the states, got the final bill and compared again. Usually works out around 20% cheaper each order i do.
I can see your point, but....
Naturally some stuff you cant buy from Summit or Jegs, but what i can for me it works out better from them.
Take the Digital 6 i have in my LJ, cost me $690. Its on the Summit site for $287.95. I cauld order that, pay there extra $15 O/S handling fee, convert it to AUD and pay $100AUD postage (wouldent be near that) and the price is still just over half....
Cheers.
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Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
just on another topic this would be bagging a company on your site (this has nothing to do with you bomber) wouldnt it? seems a bit different to saying something about another company that overcharged me . so is this an unbiased site!!!!!!
Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
just on another topic this would be bagging a company on your site (this has nothing to do with you bomber) wouldnt it? seems a bit different to saying something about another company that overcharged me . so is this an unbiased site!!!!!!
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Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
I have compared, i have shopped, and i have purchased from the states, got the final bill and compared again. Usually works out around 20% cheaper each order i do.
I can see your point, but....
Naturally some stuff you cant buy from Summit or Jegs, but what i can for me it works out better from them.
Take the Digital 6 i have in my LJ, cost me $690. Its on the Summit site for $287.95. I cauld order that, pay there extra $15 O/S handling fee, convert it to AUD and pay $100AUD postage (wouldent be near that) and the price is still just over half....
Cheers.
i hear what your saying bomber the only reason i didnt get the stuff from the states was i couldnt get the Dizzy from over there for a 308, i not long bought a slave cylinder, mastercylinder kit, boyeson QS2 quickshot and a jd jetting kit for husqvarna 510 dirtbike delivered to my door it cost me $380 to my door. The slave cylinder a lone would have cost me close to $300 here to my door and close to$450 for all the other bits$750 all up and i found the customer service alot better. You ring tell them what you want , they give you a price to your door and they dont charge you any credit charge fees for using your visa as the banks do enough of this anyway and i can have it to my door in 4 days. i have found found the states to be far better in dealing with stuff like this. i would keep all my money in Australia butover the last few weeks of service i have recieved from our local blokes you got to be joking .
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I buy heaps of stuff from the States etc and local, the biggest price difference is always the frieght cost. If its a large package and very light you get charged heaps for the space volume. It can be fairly heavy and small size and costs little. I bought a gearbox a few months ago, got it sent by FEDEX on standby freight (took 6 days to get here), cost $500 for 110 kilos. Got a sump and fuel line and some bits cost $300 and weighed 2 kilos! Need to do your home work on packaging to get a good price or otherwise buy local.
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hi bomber thanks for replies.im not as good with a computer as you are so bear with me
firstly id like to say that,msd can be made to work with an ice dizzy.it wont work for long though,it will burn out the sensor in the dizzy pretty quickly apparently.
also we have gotten of track a bit because im compareing my base model ice system to a 6 series msd
one issue i didnt raise before is that msd has a one year warranty,ice has a 3 year warranty,ice wins that one,i hope with no debate
that dizzy u link posted looks like a nice dizzy,and the ignition link u posted looks great to.but the dizzy is $360 and the box $809,and u havent bought leads,coil,and postage yet.ands its a chev not 308.i dont think u
have really answerd the questions.so atm u cant get a 6 series,to suit a 308 or 350 with no weights and springs.agreed ?
my ice sytem was $1200 deliverd.i know a msd coil 6 series set up should be less than that.so i am outright saying ice is more expensive.we both agree on that.
on the issue of customer service.im glad u have had a positive experience with msd.i have never used it,and will agree with u thats it good.but i cant agree that it is as good as the personal touch u get ringing up the owner of the company,who is sitting in the same country as u.as i did today to find out compatability.
im glad i never had to make my own ignition leads.some people may be fine with doing it bomber,but im not.i like the fact that the leads were already worked out,the right length,by some one who knows what a vn headed 308 is.again bomber personal taste.so for me personaly,again ice is better.
on the issue of regaphing.im not sure how u can say no msd dizzys need regraphing.then say,u just change springs and weights,which according to u will only take a couple of minutes.isnt this regraphing.bomber im not as good on the spanners as u,nor do i have the technical knowlege atm to change springs and weights.but my engine builder reckons he would remove the dizzy,to do the job.if i have to remove the dizzy,it will take more than a couple of minutes just to get the dizzy out.so for me personaly again ice is better.i dont have to muck around with tools,risk scratching my car.i have pushed a button for my new curve and am driving my car before u have removed your dizzy cap.
ice also gives u a full 22degree spark from 1000rpm to 10,000 rpm.msd does not.hope we can agree on that
also to the msd box is noisy.mine is whisper quiet.,and under the glove box.i personaly didnt want to mount a box in my bay after all the pannel work,so it needed to go under the glove box im my situation.i wouldnt mount a box in the boot either as its to far and u will get voltage drop.so again ice is better,its quiet,and its easier to find a loction for it
now we both agree that the ice fits and the msd doesnt,no pannel work to your new paint job.personaly i never looked at the issue till after my car was painted,like 90% of people.i also was going to get a msd till i found out about ice.so either plan your paint job and cut the lip like mick did,if u want to run msd.or leave the lip and run ice.people need to know this important point so they dont get caught out,with a nice paint job and a dizzy that doesnt fit.i hope we can both agree on that.
we can go on all day.this is all water of a ducks back to me.u said i was wrong or poorly reasearch about ice being better than msd.the facts are bomber i looked into it a lot,and for me personally,in my situation, ice was definatley the way to go.i didnt spend more to get less,in fact ice gave me so much more than any 6 series msd could.conveince,and better performance in my opinion.
firstly id like to say that,msd can be made to work with an ice dizzy.it wont work for long though,it will burn out the sensor in the dizzy pretty quickly apparently.
also we have gotten of track a bit because im compareing my base model ice system to a 6 series msd
one issue i didnt raise before is that msd has a one year warranty,ice has a 3 year warranty,ice wins that one,i hope with no debate
that dizzy u link posted looks like a nice dizzy,and the ignition link u posted looks great to.but the dizzy is $360 and the box $809,and u havent bought leads,coil,and postage yet.ands its a chev not 308.i dont think u
have really answerd the questions.so atm u cant get a 6 series,to suit a 308 or 350 with no weights and springs.agreed ?
my ice sytem was $1200 deliverd.i know a msd coil 6 series set up should be less than that.so i am outright saying ice is more expensive.we both agree on that.
on the issue of customer service.im glad u have had a positive experience with msd.i have never used it,and will agree with u thats it good.but i cant agree that it is as good as the personal touch u get ringing up the owner of the company,who is sitting in the same country as u.as i did today to find out compatability.
im glad i never had to make my own ignition leads.some people may be fine with doing it bomber,but im not.i like the fact that the leads were already worked out,the right length,by some one who knows what a vn headed 308 is.again bomber personal taste.so for me personaly,again ice is better.
on the issue of regaphing.im not sure how u can say no msd dizzys need regraphing.then say,u just change springs and weights,which according to u will only take a couple of minutes.isnt this regraphing.bomber im not as good on the spanners as u,nor do i have the technical knowlege atm to change springs and weights.but my engine builder reckons he would remove the dizzy,to do the job.if i have to remove the dizzy,it will take more than a couple of minutes just to get the dizzy out.so for me personaly again ice is better.i dont have to muck around with tools,risk scratching my car.i have pushed a button for my new curve and am driving my car before u have removed your dizzy cap.
ice also gives u a full 22degree spark from 1000rpm to 10,000 rpm.msd does not.hope we can agree on that
also to the msd box is noisy.mine is whisper quiet.,and under the glove box.i personaly didnt want to mount a box in my bay after all the pannel work,so it needed to go under the glove box im my situation.i wouldnt mount a box in the boot either as its to far and u will get voltage drop.so again ice is better,its quiet,and its easier to find a loction for it
now we both agree that the ice fits and the msd doesnt,no pannel work to your new paint job.personaly i never looked at the issue till after my car was painted,like 90% of people.i also was going to get a msd till i found out about ice.so either plan your paint job and cut the lip like mick did,if u want to run msd.or leave the lip and run ice.people need to know this important point so they dont get caught out,with a nice paint job and a dizzy that doesnt fit.i hope we can both agree on that.
we can go on all day.this is all water of a ducks back to me.u said i was wrong or poorly reasearch about ice being better than msd.the facts are bomber i looked into it a lot,and for me personally,in my situation, ice was definatley the way to go.i didnt spend more to get less,in fact ice gave me so much more than any 6 series msd could.conveince,and better performance in my opinion.
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Didnt you look at the Digital 6 that i have???
The price you quoted for the MSD box is for the Digital 7 Programmable, that i merely mentioned for the sake of it. Its probably about the absolute highest level you would go for in a street/race car. Digital 6 is $287.95.
I DID NOT SAY that no MSD Dizzy needs re graphing. You said that you never have to PAY to regraph an ICE dizzy, i simply stated that none of the MSD dizzy's i have looked at need you to BUY MORE STUFF to re graph them, they come with everything, therefore it is FREE to do it at any time. Can be easily done on the car. I also agreed that the dials would be quicker.
And yes you CAN get several versions of the six series to suit any motor, the control box will work on any motor, and will work with both MSD or OEM distributors (i have used with both), as well as (i thought) all aftermarket ones, except apparently ICE. Its the dizzy that is different engine to engine as one out of a Datsun 1200 wont fit a 308 im afraid. I said im not sure if you can get the E Curve for an aussie V8
Apart from that i think were pretty well in agreement or at least a mutual understanding.
Cheers.
The price you quoted for the MSD box is for the Digital 7 Programmable, that i merely mentioned for the sake of it. Its probably about the absolute highest level you would go for in a street/race car. Digital 6 is $287.95.
I DID NOT SAY that no MSD Dizzy needs re graphing. You said that you never have to PAY to regraph an ICE dizzy, i simply stated that none of the MSD dizzy's i have looked at need you to BUY MORE STUFF to re graph them, they come with everything, therefore it is FREE to do it at any time. Can be easily done on the car. I also agreed that the dials would be quicker.
And yes you CAN get several versions of the six series to suit any motor, the control box will work on any motor, and will work with both MSD or OEM distributors (i have used with both), as well as (i thought) all aftermarket ones, except apparently ICE. Its the dizzy that is different engine to engine as one out of a Datsun 1200 wont fit a 308 im afraid. I said im not sure if you can get the E Curve for an aussie V8
Apart from that i think were pretty well in agreement or at least a mutual understanding.
Cheers.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:41 PM
Apart from that i think were pretty well in agreement or at least a mutual understanding.
Cheers.
I love happy endings.
I think what this thread does show, is do your homework on what you want. SS Bloke started this thread and was looking for advice and opinions and he certainly got plenty.
I've been is Chris' car and it is one of the nicest and well built torana's I've seen. I'm sure Bomber would know he stuff as well.
As for my grey hatch (which I bought as an unfinished project) the angle grinder was the simplest solution.
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[quote name='SSbloke' date='29 January 2010 - 05:57 AM' timestamp='1264708670' post='475639']
[quote name='Bomber Watson' date='28 January 2010 - 09:58 PM' timestamp='1264679902' post='475589']
Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
just on another topic this would be bagging a company on your site (this has nothing to do with you bomber) wouldnt it? seems a bit different to saying something about another company that overcharged me . so is this an unbiased site!!!!!!
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Good point, i should watch what i say in that regards more often, thanks for pointing that out mate.
lxsstorana, i read your post twice and i think your opinion is pretty much what we have all been getting at, good to see you can see it from all sides.
Oh yeah, back to my debate, forgot one point, i have never heard my MSD box......but thats just me i may well be deaf. Sorry if that sounds sarcastic, its not intended to be!!! On that note it is also mounted in the engine bay.
Cheers.
[quote name='Bomber Watson' date='28 January 2010 - 09:58 PM' timestamp='1264679902' post='475589']
Neil, you can do that because you dont pay the extra 1000000000000% rocket puts on stuff. And if you buy from one of Rockets supplyers then you have to pay an extra 100000000%.
just on another topic this would be bagging a company on your site (this has nothing to do with you bomber) wouldnt it? seems a bit different to saying something about another company that overcharged me . so is this an unbiased site!!!!!!
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Good point, i should watch what i say in that regards more often, thanks for pointing that out mate.
lxsstorana, i read your post twice and i think your opinion is pretty much what we have all been getting at, good to see you can see it from all sides.
Oh yeah, back to my debate, forgot one point, i have never heard my MSD box......but thats just me i may well be deaf. Sorry if that sounds sarcastic, its not intended to be!!! On that note it is also mounted in the engine bay.
Cheers.
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I have a MSD 6AL in my glove box
It makes no noise whatsoever
It makes no noise whatsoever
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lol your right but ive never heard it buzzing
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cheers bomber,looks like we are on the same page 
yes i checked out your system,yes i understand why u pointed out the programmable digi 7.i was just trying to keep it a bit simple
i refered to the noise as to another thread going hear about it.i have no 1st hand experience.i definatley take yours and lees word 4 it,and am prepared to retract my statement about the box being noisy.but 76lxhatch,and evan both say,theirs is noisy in this thread
http://www.gmh-toran...showtopic=43350
bomber u may be able to explain this one.particular version,model ?
yes i checked out your system,yes i understand why u pointed out the programmable digi 7.i was just trying to keep it a bit simple
i refered to the noise as to another thread going hear about it.i have no 1st hand experience.i definatley take yours and lees word 4 it,and am prepared to retract my statement about the box being noisy.but 76lxhatch,and evan both say,theirs is noisy in this thread
http://www.gmh-toran...showtopic=43350
bomber u may be able to explain this one.particular version,model ?
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Might be that the 6AL is a little better than the 6A because its rubber mounted. Any capacitive discharge ignition system is not going to be silent.
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Back on the subject of clearance issues, I have just fit my MSD dizzy in and have about 10mm clearance between it and the firewall strip. Mine is not cut or trimmed and I am running the HQ mounts as my Torana ones have gone missing. Maybe it is the difference in mounts? I reckon I'll stay with them now after hearing the probs with torrie mounts and apparently it sits the motor a bit lower which is another bonus as I'm running the high rise Harrop.
I'm not going to enter the debate of what breed of ignition system is better as I have not yet tried my complete (MSD) ignition system yet and haven't used an IC&E system before. Hey, to me they both sound like they have pro's and con's but it's all individual choice and what you have had a good run with. I went with msd as a few people I spoke to that changed from whatever they had previously, were absolutely stoked with the difference it made.
I could be opening up a can of worms here, but one of my mates fitted all msd except for his amplifier. He chose to go with a Crane Hi6. He said it works really well but then informed me that he had set the rev limiter to 7,000rpm and when he entered the local burnout comp had the needle going just past the 8.000 mark! Maybe i'm wrong, but that doesn't sound like a rev limiter to me! He has now set it to 6,500 and now hits about the 7,200 mark which is a bit more comfortable.
I know this isn't the place to start, but has anyone had this sort of problem with an msd 6al? Just curious as i've still got the old msd 6a and thinking the limiter might come in handy, especially when you can chuck a 3,000 chip in when you drop it off for tyres, repairs, etc.
I'm not going to enter the debate of what breed of ignition system is better as I have not yet tried my complete (MSD) ignition system yet and haven't used an IC&E system before. Hey, to me they both sound like they have pro's and con's but it's all individual choice and what you have had a good run with. I went with msd as a few people I spoke to that changed from whatever they had previously, were absolutely stoked with the difference it made.
I could be opening up a can of worms here, but one of my mates fitted all msd except for his amplifier. He chose to go with a Crane Hi6. He said it works really well but then informed me that he had set the rev limiter to 7,000rpm and when he entered the local burnout comp had the needle going just past the 8.000 mark! Maybe i'm wrong, but that doesn't sound like a rev limiter to me! He has now set it to 6,500 and now hits about the 7,200 mark which is a bit more comfortable.
I know this isn't the place to start, but has anyone had this sort of problem with an msd 6al? Just curious as i've still got the old msd 6a and thinking the limiter might come in handy, especially when you can chuck a 3,000 chip in when you drop it off for tyres, repairs, etc.
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:17 AM
Look much as im not a fan of Crane gear either, i would think his tacho is probably out before the rev limiter would be.
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:22 AM
Back on the subject of clearance issues, I have just fit my MSD dizzy in and have about 10mm clearance between it and the firewall strip. Mine is not cut or trimmed and I am running the HQ mounts as my Torana ones have gone missing. Maybe it is the difference in mounts? I reckon I'll stay with them now after hearing the probs with torrie mounts and apparently it sits the motor a bit lower which is another bonus as I'm running the high rise Harrop.
I'm not going to enter the debate of what breed of ignition system is better as I have not yet tried my complete (MSD) ignition system yet and haven't used an IC&E system before. Hey, to me they both sound like they have pro's and con's but it's all individual choice and what you have had a good run with. I went with msd as a few people I spoke to that changed from whatever they had previously, were absolutely stoked with the difference it made.
I could be opening up a can of worms here, but one of my mates fitted all msd except for his amplifier. He chose to go with a Crane Hi6. He said it works really well but then informed me that he had set the rev limiter to 7,000rpm and when he entered the local burnout comp had the needle going just past the 8.000 mark! Maybe i'm wrong, but that doesn't sound like a rev limiter to me! He has now set it to 6,500 and now hits about the 7,200 mark which is a bit more comfortable.
I know this isn't the place to start, but has anyone had this sort of problem with an msd 6al? Just curious as i've still got the old msd 6a and thinking the limiter might come in handy, especially when you can chuck a 3,000 chip in when you drop it off for tyres, repairs, etc.
ive just got the 6al but havent had the motor goin as yet will get back to you on that one but what a brilliant idea about the 3000 rev limit on it when it goes to get work as it will be goin in for a wheel alignment when its up and running
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:47 AM
on the issue of customer service.im glad u have had a positive experience with msd.i have never used it,and will agree with u thats it good.but i cant agree that it is as good as the personal touch u get ringing up the owner of the company,who is sitting in the same country as u.as i did today to find out compatability.
I personly have delt with well known companys in the us and then actually gone and picked my stuff up from them personly and would like to say that i have never had an issue yet touch wood hehe. if u read my return pm ass308 even if the company is in the same place as u doesnt meen they are going to be more helpfull.ill leave it at that.
im outa here
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:56 AM
Mine is on pasanger kick panel and i cant here it.I have a MSD 6AL in my glove box
It makes no noise whatsoever
I would like to see the 2 dizzys side by side to see dif in length
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 03:38 PM
i would like to say thanks for all the input on this subject from everyone. i have made my mind up and the 6al is goin in the passenger side up underneath the glove box if there is a bit of anoise to it thats ok cause its already loud enough now . cheers
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