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#76 TerrA LX

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:23 PM

UC,s THAT HAVE COST ME GOOD MONEY to own .



I would be upset with that too.


The american muscle is looking more attractive all the time .


I think you will find the problem is 100x worse with them...

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 06:56 AM

I think my post wasn't read, the information doesn't contain paint and trim codes simple. The information is owned by an individual, what he does with it is his business, and he isn't one that is buying and selling cars like a certain person involved with the LC LJ's, so there is no worries about him diodgying up cars Whilst on that, some of the things that have been written on here about rumours of people doing this or that could be considered slander, we should be careful repeating "facts" we have heard from a 3rd party.
Rollo, in reference to what you had to say, I can tell you someone is certainly taking an interest, and as a result of his work, a couple of people have been caught, and a few owners of cars have beeen burnt very badly.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:10 PM

Oh well...

obviously not going to get any further here with this one, are we?? :Headbang2:

To all those who would like to see this sort of information become available, lets hope that some day it does and hope that it is not lost forever.. :cry:

cheers
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Edited by sstorana, 16 February 2010 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:08 PM

:Headbang2: :Headbang2: :Headbang2: :Headbang2: :Headbang2: :Headbang2: :Headbang2: I don't know why this issue is being pushed, as I explained, what you want is not available anyway.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:22 PM

Guy,s, There is a person who when quoted your PSN number, will ask you for your cars engine and chassis numbers. If your numbers match up with his records all is well providing your numbers are not restamps. What he will NOT do is provide you with the numbers if you cannot quote them, or have non original numbers ie, body swap / engine swap. I commend him for this, it will only keep the breed pure so to speak. Hands up any body who wants to part with big $$$ to later find out that the "matching number" car,s engine really came out of a Kingswood, ( not that there was much difference ). Most of us know of cars that for various reasons are non original, who want,s to see them (fixed up)?? I guess it will only be the owners of such cars and only for monetary gain. Original, correct cars are one thing, tributes and replicas another, it,s the ones in between that would bother most people. Any thoughts??

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 07:53 AM

for years I've been getting letters from Holden and info on my cars and also from other sources,generally speaking the letters from Holden have little info whatsoever confirming what i would already generally know but i like getting there letter heads it sort looks more official,the other sources wisely ask me to give vin and engine numbers and will verify what i tell them if its not the right engine number most times they won't tell me but if my curiosity gets the better of me i will pursue a answer,..
in some cases the same car has had the same enquiry or interest prior to me..I've had situations in the past where i've bought cars and looked at cars that have had factory id number errors,different chassis numbers as to what the micro fisks have told me and these cars are cars i have cited myself and i'm pretty good at picking what believe to original or untampered cars....with the lack of technology back then always going to be human error..
i once looked at a lh torana that had no date or year model stamped on it but had its chassis number on it,..also in the past I've had people try and bumstear me with incorrect info,...sadly but unfortunately this is always going to be a problem..
i once had the guys at holden try and tell me i had the wrong engine in a car i bought from a one owner with correct books and original engine..the car was real is info was incorrect.. the digits were arse about...right date cate so on..
what prompt me to respond to this post is in all my years of sourcing info nobody has ever been able to tell me trim or paint codes or build numbers and so forth...most people in the know like myself have built up there knowledge just by experience and sort being self taught so there things you just can't buy..if had accumulated info over the years i certainly would not be handing over for all to see,i know i would personally assist or help certain people by using my own discretion which alot of people do...and its there choice..
with all due respect alot of business are cashing in on the torana market and duplicating parts and before to long books will be printed with what i believe is confidential info especially when people own these cars today...we have guys collecting info or data for registries yet I've never seen or heard of any info..
i certainly have no problem with people filling a need in a market..and if there good enough and smart enough to make a buck power to them but i think thats call business..
i've had people borrow my original parts to duplicate with promises of samples in return,..got my parts back but no samples yet..
in this world there's always going to be dodgy people in every industry....I've learnt to feather my own nest..
just my thoughts on this topic of power and ownership...

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:00 AM

Festa & Got1..

So is someone able to shed some information on my factory SS? Unforturantely I know very liitle info on this car and I would be keen to know it's history.

I am happy to pass on any info that they require..

cheers
Mick

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:18 PM

Festa & Got1..

So is someone able to shed some information on my factory SS? Unforturantely I know very liitle info on this car and I would be keen to know it's history.

I am happy to pass on any info that they require..

cheers
Mick

after reading 4 pages of this old thread i'm somewhat disgruntled
i too would like further info on my car mick that i have owned for nearly 28 years
haveing read that microfish? info is available on lx a9x's
no info has been available to me!
by p.m or e-mail
a simple question asked and a simple answer needed
a verification or a statement that the info is not recorded would have been nice
but nothing
given up waiting for a response as such

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:25 PM

B) Hi guys i have just read this hole topic and its one big head f##k talk about small d##k syndrome you guys with the the info do you own holden if not the guy that has the info is a theif as all that imformation belongs to holden not him if he dident steel it well that makes him still a theif because he has not given it back to holden.

Yes A9X cars are special i would like to know how the hell the infomation if it ever was released to us mear mortals that dont own a A9X  could do any damage to the A9X for god sake the only way for you guys to get ripped of is if somebody produced new body tags exactly the same way as they wear done back in the 70's, but then again i still think its small man syndrome for holding them to him self and not shareing with the rest of us .

cheers sting



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:27 PM

Are all the A9Xs accounted for?.

 

i.e. is it known that all the hatches and 4 doors are either still around, wrecked, tucked away in a secret owners garage?

 

Or is there say 30% still around and known, in clubs etc,

another 30% known to be lost to crashes etc.

and the rest "...stolen  / ....well who knows?..."



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:29 PM

For starters how can that question be ever answered correctly if some are" tucked away in a secret owners garage" and it was common knowledge than its not a secret ! Also a lot would have been wrecked, written off, parted etc back in the day when they were just another torana and records weren't kept of those cars ,also then theres the ones that have just sit and haven't been registered for tens of years  due to there owners miss furtune or ill health or deceased !!  And then theres the known cars due to active owners in clubs or registers or on websites like this one .For I know the 3 I have well atleast 2 were out of action for years and thought lost id say .The first I found the absinth yellow car  was given to me as a parts car cause I bought I car off him and he said take all the other crap too if you like well it was sold by Madills holden in gympie and that were it was gympie still  laying on its roof in a cow paddock but in red ! the second was being sold on carsales the jasmine yellow car as a slr5000 replica for $27500 in above average condition which later through this forums members and my detective work turned out to be a stolen car from the Newcastle area and had not been seen since it theft in 1984 ,and the third graced the cover of performance street car in 1989 and was in street machine back in 1990 and went MIA in the mid 90,s until I found it in a truck depo in 2009 .But if I was a having a lolly jar guess id say only half are still around so 200-250 thought anyone if im close ???



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:32 AM

Ta mate...it was a slightly hopothetical question. .. related to the earlier posts...where there is a lot of chatter about the "list/documents" that are owned by someone...and in turn used as one of the tools to ID legit cars/ fakes.
I was just interested to understand how many of the vehicles on those lists...were ticked off as being still around. And to be honest also wondering how a car that hadnt been heard of for years..and just popped up as matching. would be thought of....

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:03 AM

Brett, the fellow who has the information is the most least likely to be a "theif" as you claim. He has a wealth of info on these cars such as, replaced engines, cut and shuts, crashed /repaired and other relevant information that relates  to a cars history.  If you are buying an A9X,  the numbers and any known history may be provided.     BTW he is not a small man.

B) Hi guys i have just read this hole topic and its one big head f##k talk about small d##k syndrome you guys with the the info do you own holden if not the guy that has the info is a theif as all that imformation belongs to holden not him if he dident steel it well that makes him still a theif because he has not given it back to holden.

Yes A9X cars are special i would like to know how the hell the infomation if it ever was released to us mear mortals that dont own a A9X  could do any damage to the A9X for god sake the only way for you guys to get ripped of is if somebody produced new body tags exactly the same way as they wear done back in the 70's, but then again i still think its small man syndrome for holding them to him self and not shareing with the rest of us .

cheers sting



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:05 PM

GMH has held no records on the A9X for a long time. All GMH will ever do is if you supply all the numbers, they will tell you that based on those numbers the car is an A9X or whatever. They can't give you say an engine number based on your just supplying a PSN. They are nice to have, but worh nothing. When I got my SS letter, they claimed the car may be an A9X, despite the fact it was clearly a 253. They were purely going off the fact the car was built at the same time as the A9X and that it's PSN which ended in 34 was only two numbers behind an A9X built on the same day.

 

Where did the records come from that I have seen in magazines over the last few years which show how many A9X sedans & hatches were made in each colour, including trim colours & diff ratios. They are very detailed figures.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:52 PM

Where did the records come from that I have seen in magazines over the last few years which show how many A9X sedans & hatches were made in each colour, including trim colours & diff ratios. They are very detailed figures.

Pete.

 

Incomplete record may I add! 



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:34 PM

The big picture i think is this. Vin/ID tags are very easy to reproduce these days, and easy to spot with a trained eye - however to the untrained eye it is dangerous.

 

All this data was collected in the 70's and era lacking technology and lacking care for maintenance of records or the importance they may have down the line. Becasue of this and this fact alone, there are low life people out there who are always looking to take advantage of these lack of data - to rebirth and replicate and palm off as originals to the untrained eye.

 

We are relatively lucky with the A9X's, as they are more identifiable physically than the LC/LJ knockoffs. But to a craftsman who wants to make money or for whatever reason they are still able to be mocked up to the point of being borderline legit going by physical attributes(that if someone really really really tries - even then its hard).

 

If somebody has part of this type of information they arent obliged to release it. Infact they arent sad or greedy. Sure it would be nice to have a massive data file with all the information out there collated and catalogued, but would it make a difference to the value of our cars? Will you sleep any better at night? I think the only people who will benefit from this information is people who are missing tags. If all your tags are in order - what more do you need to know? You know what trim the car has, you know what colour the shell is - you know what engine and driveline it has?

 

For those concerned about engine numbers relating to a VIN - i know the NSW RTA will give you that data as far as they go back if you fill out a request and provide proof of ownership of the VIN in question. If someone is really really desperate the DTI also has master reocrds which can be searched via codes - but you need to know the codes first of all and then you need to hope the records date back that far!



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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:50 AM

Hi there , wAs wondering if any one could inform me on how I work out the build # for my A9X
Cheers
And thanks
Rod

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 09:41 AM

Its a secret Rod hahaha. No soup for you, 1 month!!

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 09:57 PM

A9X's were produced in batches slipped into the production lineup. The term build number sort of does not apply as such. They were slipped in & out as need be basically in colour batches to my knowledge  (which is crap).

 

To be helpful I suggest you contact REDA9X via a pm through this site (Don't for the love of GOD post your numbers up here) or contact the A9X Club for information.

 

I hope that helps.



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Posted 11 May 2015 - 10:55 PM

I have a ht preference 308 engine. Apparently they came out in a9x / slr 5000
Is that true. She's a runner I drove it like a few months ago it was in my hq ss

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 11:20 PM

I have a ht preference 308 engine. Apparently they came out in a9x / slr 5000
Is that true. She's a runner I drove it like a few months ago it was in my hq ss

Yes. Basically the HT prefix 308 was only available in the SL/R 5000 and SS (incl A9X).

There may have been a few lesser model LH & LX's that were optioned with a 308 but the 308 was not normally available in S & SL models.






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