I'm in the process of ordering the Hopper Stoppers Kit for the LX = Just wondering if I should bother ordering the Braided hoses with the kit or just standard ones also if I should just order the "Drilled And Slotted Rotors" or just instead opt for the "Slotted Rotors" car is just a streeter and wont be racing.
Is it really worth it for my situation to include Braided Hoses and Drilled Rotors,does it make much difference??
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:57 AM
Slotted only for rotors
Rubber hoses are fine
Rubber hoses are fine
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:10 AM
Thanks mate, thats what I figured but thought I'd ask the experts for confirmationSlotted only for rotors
Rubber hoses are fine
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:43 PM
From what info ive been able to find out the drilled Rotors are only a problem when doing Track Work or Racing Quarter's as the rotors sometimes will get too hot drawing heat into the holes causing fractures in some cases though I would think for just a streeter it wouldnt really be an issue?. Regardless I'll be buying just Slotted Rotors anyway as its cheaper and im a cheap bastard most the time LOL!.........Do not buy the drilled rotors
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:19 PM
Finally on my way to decent brakes = yipee I paid for the Slotted Hoppers kit tonight, lott'a money to part with for a brake kit but from so much research/reading I feel it was my best option??.
With regards to installation of the kit,the kit will be in HQ pattern and havent bought my new 15" weld wheels as I want to fit the kit and take measurements first to be sure Im buying the right offset ( will go 6" wheels on the front),from what Ive read I'll need two front wheels in HQ pattern when installing the brakes which I dont have.
My brother has some 14" HQ GTS rims does anyone know the offset of these?,we were thinking of using these wheels on the Torana ( without Hoppers Calipers) just to get the stubs,adaptor plates,Ball Joints all bolted on correctly then bolt on the calipers,take measurements then work out what offset to get for the 15" Weld wheels...
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With regards to installation of the kit,the kit will be in HQ pattern and havent bought my new 15" weld wheels as I want to fit the kit and take measurements first to be sure Im buying the right offset ( will go 6" wheels on the front),from what Ive read I'll need two front wheels in HQ pattern when installing the brakes which I dont have.
My brother has some 14" HQ GTS rims does anyone know the offset of these?,we were thinking of using these wheels on the Torana ( without Hoppers Calipers) just to get the stubs,adaptor plates,Ball Joints all bolted on correctly then bolt on the calipers,take measurements then work out what offset to get for the 15" Weld wheels...
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Edited by 76S.L.R, 13 January 2011 - 11:22 PM.
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I don't know the offset but they should be 6 inches wide so if you're planning on the same width then they should be good for measuring clearances, and you can measure the backspace as a comparison when you get your hands on them.
You will need to do all this before you fit the caliper(s) as the wheel probably won't go over them, but that will work fine.
You will need to do all this before you fit the caliper(s) as the wheel probably won't go over them, but that will work fine.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:35 AM
the kit will be in HQ pattern and havent bought my new 15" weld wheels
If you're not going to use GTS, etc. wheels why not go Commodore pattern?
It's what I did, plenty of styles available including BMW wheels.
I hear HQ pattern is getting increasingly hard to find, is this so?
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 08:03 AM
Damn Ive already put my order though and paid..............
the kit will be in HQ pattern and havent bought my new 15" weld wheels
If you're not going to use GTS, etc. wheels why not go Commodore pattern?
It's what I did, plenty of styles available including BMW wheels.
I hear HQ pattern is getting increasingly hard to find, is this so?
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 08:53 AM
HQ wheels are still easier to find in the correct offset/backspace
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:28 AM
Damn Ive already put my order though and paid..............
If you're that determined you can always ring up and change but yeah Commo rims aren't the right offset, Commo ute ones are closer than sedan.
As for aftermarket, I imagine a better variety as there's many offsets for BMW, not sure if there's much out there for HQ - someone here could better answer.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 10:11 AM
Damn Ive already put my order though and paid..............
If you're that determined you can always ring up and change but yeah Commo rims aren't the right offset, Commo ute ones are closer than sedan.
As for aftermarket, I imagine a better variety as there's many offsets for BMW, not sure if there's much out there for HQ - someone here could better answer.
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plenty of choice ex states as they are chev pattern
i'd still go the commie pattern but
it's the tyre size you need
nothing around in 14"s soon
15" and above is the go
have you asked hoppers
what dia rims will clear his kit?
as i think some have to be 17" and above
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 10:17 AM
have you asked hoppers what dia rims will clear his kit?
as i think some have to be 17" and above
If you get the 290 mm rotors you'll need ≥ 15"
It may be the 330 mm rotors for ≥ 17"
I think it's best to read the thread below - a lot of it is covered, if not it's the place to ask.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 11:35 AM
this is how i see it
hq pattern is chev, so it gives you access to a huge range of wheels, cheap too. if u go commo wheels are expensive and your at the mercy of what offset is available
hq pattern is chev, so it gives you access to a huge range of wheels, cheap too. if u go commo wheels are expensive and your at the mercy of what offset is available
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this is how i see it
hq pattern is chev, so it gives you access to a huge range of wheels, cheap too. if u go commo wheels are expensive and your at the mercy of what offset is available
true
but then you are at the mercy of the aussie dollar
and while it is good now
remember it was 70 us cents at one stage not to long ago
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 11:50 AM
true but then you are at the mercy of the aussie dollar
.. and freight charges.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:04 PM
Personally, I would use AU on ( 1999 - present ) Falcon stud pattern. They use 1/2" UNF studs which are vurtually unbreakable if some brains are used. Secondly it gives you a much wider option as far as rims go, simply because many more vehicles use Ford stud pattern than HQ and Commodre put together. Thirdly, the offset is very similar to Torana. AU offset is +36.5, Torana is +32. Add the ( probable ) extra track width with a brake conversion and the track will be virtually the same.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:25 PM
I did consider the Ford studs/pattern but looked through ebay at the time the range of 2nd hand rims wasn't too impressive in comparison with Commo & BMW, also the ones that Ford came out with are distinctively Ford looking even if you remove the centre caps.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:06 PM
buy them locally from the importer, all of our wheels or atleast what is used to make them comes from overseas anyway so you are always at the mercy of the aussie dollar, only thing made locally that im aware of are Dragway and they are by far more expensive then any of the wheels were talking about, and they are going to cost the same amount whether they are chev, ford, commo or floral pattern. I went commo pattern on my LJ and I regret it
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:10 PM
The Commo ute offset is 37P so very close to the Ford one of 36.5
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 08:53 PM
Personally, I would use AU on ( 1999 - present ) Falcon stud pattern. They use 1/2" UNF studs which are vurtually unbreakable if some brains are used. Secondly it gives you a much wider option as far as rims go, simply because many more vehicles use Ford stud pattern than HQ and Commodre put together. Thirdly, the offset is very similar to Torana. AU offset is +36.5, Torana is +32. Add the ( probable ) extra track width with a brake conversion and the track will be virtually the same.
i,m surprized that no one has beaten you to death with a wet fish for even suggesting that
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:36 PM
Nah bugger it guys,I'll stick with my original plan of HQ Pattern = just have to wait for the kit to get to W.A and work out what offset wheels I need? at the moment I have no idea what offset I need?????????. I'll be going 6" wheels upfront and 8" wheels on the rear if this is legal?? I cant recall how much difference in wheel/tyre width your legally allowed between fronts and rears?.....
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:39 PM
So Ford stud pattern is no good for toranas, but a FORD 9" diff is?
StephenSLR, a very few ( VP IRS and VQ Statesman only ) Commodore rims were +27. Good luck trying to find them.
StephenSLR, a very few ( VP IRS and VQ Statesman only ) Commodore rims were +27. Good luck trying to find them.
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So Ford stud pattern is no good for toranas, but a FORD 9" diff is?
StephenSLR, a very few ( VP IRS and VQ Statesman only ) Commodore rims were +27. Good luck trying to find them.
he he
but you can't see that unless you bend down
and fyi au ford and on used a different offset so you cannot use pre au wheels on a au onwards anyway
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 03:58 AM
Ford is a great choice for pattern for wheel choice
Cause its 5 x 114.3
Same as Nissan,Toyota,Late WRX, and many other jap cars
So your world opens up to all the Jap wheels and offsets too
Much nicer then Commodore and Falcon wheels
Cause its 5 x 114.3
Same as Nissan,Toyota,Late WRX, and many other jap cars
So your world opens up to all the Jap wheels and offsets too
Much nicer then Commodore and Falcon wheels
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