V8 wont start...
#1
Posted 30 May 2006 - 01:15 PM
#2
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:04 PM
#3
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:09 PM
what else could it be?
#4
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:13 PM
#5
Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:31 PM
#6
Posted 30 May 2006 - 06:02 PM
#7 _Loki_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 06:44 PM
The click you hear is the solenoid throwing the gear out but it's lacking the oomph to spin the fly on the engine to get it turning.
[edit] The automatic, if wired legally and correctly should only be able to start the engine in Neutral of Park - that's why it doesn't "click" when you try in Drive (it's cut off as a safety thing)
Pull your starter motor out and connect it directly to a battery, the gear should throw out and spin rapidly since it doesn't have any resistance (Rapidly is an understatement), if it throws out and spins very slowly then fiddle with the solenoid, its most likely having emotional trouble.
Even a virtually flat battery should have the guts to spin a resistless starter rapidly.
Alternatively just test it on a battery you know isn't dead
Could just be a loose/worn connection in the solenoid.
Goodluck
Edited by Loki, 30 May 2006 - 06:49 PM.
#8
Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:12 PM
on frid it was slow turing over and started..and on sat tryed for 10 secs and sounded bit off and didnt start..and yeah no go now
#9
Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:38 PM
#10 _[BOTTLEDUP]_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 08:53 PM
If it drops below 8-9 Volts the battery is stuffed.
Just because it shows 12V 'idle' doesn't mean that its OK
#11 _jimjet61_
Posted 30 May 2006 - 09:12 PM
#12 _Oldn64_
Posted 31 May 2006 - 02:01 AM
I would measure the battery cell by cell, this will tell you if you have a dead cell, dead cell replace battery. Can you turn the motor over by hand (and I mean at least 4 times...) Does it feel funny. How advanced did you go? can you statically time it so you know that it is at least got a chance of running. then retime.
Cheers
#13
Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:17 PM
so starter it is????.found reco 1s for $110 with a warranty.if the extractor is really close to the starter,would that cause it to die?i know the wires are fine and havent melted,but its a tight fit and the extractors gos just above the starter
#14
Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:38 PM
#15 _Yella SLuR_
Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:59 PM
#16 _J&S Racing_
Posted 31 May 2006 - 06:33 PM
If you are just getting the click noise from the starter motor and have tried out some good battery's i think it's fair to say that the contacts in the solonoid cap are not connecting properly anymore and therefore can not supply enough grunt for the starter motor to turn, they are easy enough to take off and check/replace. The other thing it could be is the connection of the battery cable that goes to the solonoid cap.
#17 _Oldn64_
Posted 31 May 2006 - 11:24 PM
Hitting the starter with a hammer may jolt the solenoid pins out a littel more and thus enable contact on next fire. Try giving the starter a gental tap. Then try starting it.
Cheers
PS: If it does start then you are safe with teh fact that it is a starter related thing. How long has teh torana battery been sitting and please tell me that it has nto sat on teh garage floor....
#18 _TORANASS_
Posted 31 May 2006 - 11:52 PM
A few things to try without checkin too hard is the earth lead..And make sure your purple wire that connects to the solonoid for crank has a steady 12V suply..
John
#19
Posted 01 June 2006 - 12:57 AM
#20 _[BOTTLEDUP]_
Posted 01 June 2006 - 01:17 AM
This coming from someone who raves about Hillman's and Galants...Ok, couple of this... Pat and J&S, he is runnign a 351 FRAUD motor, so if he actually got the VS starter in there then the only good bit would be the starter...
#21
Posted 01 June 2006 - 01:47 PM
whats wrong??
#22 _Loki_
Posted 01 June 2006 - 01:49 PM
Try jump starting or a battery that is definately in good working order.
If jump starting/good battery doesn't work, gotta be a connection/lead.
Edited by Loki, 01 June 2006 - 01:50 PM.
#23
Posted 01 June 2006 - 04:13 PM
so,my current battery is under warranty so going to see the guy tomorrow.but my question is,did the starter motor and battery both shit themselfs at the same time?because with my old starter motor yesterday,the car woudnt turn over with my battery or the battery out of my old torana.changed starter and wouldnt turn over with my batt.but new batt and this other starter all is ok..whats going on?
#24
Posted 01 June 2006 - 06:06 PM
#25 _[BOTTLEDUP]_
Posted 01 June 2006 - 07:08 PM
Does your car have a solenoid on the starter itself or is it the earlier 'rat trap' style starter with an external solenoid mounted near the battery? The latter are prone to causing excessive voltage drop and starting problems.
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