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[REDA9X]

Yes, we have at length. It's now being claimed it's a prototype. I've had a few discussions with a few guys about this and the theory was the car was a 5000 that was just removed off the line and modified to A9X specs as a prototype. We know 3 prototypes were made in this manner, and one was a 5000 that was used on the homologation paperwork, still with the SLR5000 down the sides but with A9X flares and mods. The interesting part is that the A9X homolgation paperwork was written up prior to the A9X release (obviously in time for Sandown 77), this car is taged as a 11/77 build from memory on the compliance plate, yet the VIN year code is G, meaning built sometime prior to sep 77. The other interesting thing is the rear axle code is G70, being 2.60 ratio only available on the A9X in Toranas. In other words, things just don't seem to mate up. Some of the guys here have seen the car in the flesh and from what I'm told, they weren't 100% sure of what they were looking at, it's an odd one, but one thing is for certain, it's not an A9X and the floorpan is not done correctly. I would love to see it in the flesh but it's in Melbourne. I've seen some tags dodgied up in the past too that were impossible to pic, so who knows

[LXCHEV]

I had a look at this car in the flesh on Monday night. I didn't really pay a lot of attention to it, but at first I just assumed it was an A9X (from the general look of it), then later on I found out it was only listed as an SLR5000. From memory they are expecting it to sell for between $25,000 and $35,000.

Pretty rough in general, but certainly original looking.

[REDA9X]

Another option has come to mind. Despite what some people have said, the A9X did actually sell quickly when new, those that hung around on lots for long periods of time did so because dealerships pumped up the prices, or in some cases, didn't advertise what they had. My car is a good example of this, didn't sell new until july 1978, and it was $2000 more than the list price. The original owner even told me they still had an LE Monaro new on the lot they tried to sell him. In most cases though, A9X's sold quickly and resold at a profit quicklt after the success in the touring car championship. People started wanting them, and there were some dealerships offering to modify up cars to A9X specs. This made me wonder, perhaps this car started life as say an LX SLR and was taken to the dealership and modified up to A9X specs and the dealer had connections to have the LHS and middle tags made at the factory to match, this would account for the G70 code for the diff and the fact the build date on the compliance plate does not match up. I know it did happen because I know of a race shell that was never raced having tags made and sent out form the factory, but with mistakes. Just a thought, and it would make sense, 1. No SLR5000 was made after Aug 77, and 2. has anyone ever seen an LX SLR 5000 with that coloured trim? I haven't, but I have seen LX SLR's with it....

[dattoman]

if it went for under 30k it might be worth it....... if anything can actually be verified on it

[REDA9X]

Exactly my point Datto, it's way to hard to prove.

[LC69GTR]

All details 1977 Holden LX Torana SLR 5000 Sedan Here

See they have a nice old 1969 Monaro there to needs a little work

Nice ute to EH

[LXM21]

Red, what were the other two prototypes ?
Was one Harry Firths Hatch ?

[REDA9X]

yes, and another hatch

[Toranavista]

Ok my theory The car was build around late July 77 as a prototype. It was left out the back so to speak till after the final run of SLR5000. It was then decided to prepare it for sale to perhaps somene in the know. They found an earlier trim which was sitting around. (Not unlike the fashion packs that went into some of the A9X's). The car was then plated with the body options tag and complianced in November 77. I know that it is possible to send a vehicle for compliance well after the build date. The history is probably sketchy because some wheeling and dealing was done at the time.

[REDA9X]

original flare nuts are not spot welded, and I don't believe this car was built earlier than the complianced date. If it was built in say july, it would have been complianced then, or not complianced at all. It's an odd one, but I think I'm on the money with the dealer optioned up theory

[REDA9X]

they are a nut sert, a round nut fixed from each side

[REDA9X]

They are a special round nut you fix with a tool, they squash together and clamp to the panel

[REDA9X]

they are known

[REDA9X]

For the price it has on it, I would say it is fair when compared to other cars asking similar money. There are a few modified SLR5000's asking the same sort of money and more.

[Redslur]

Red

I have sent you a PM however your mailbox is full. Can you let me know if you receive it please.

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