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SL/R 5000 and A9X

Started by _My74LH_ , Feb 29 2012 05:24 PM

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#1 _My74LH_

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

Can anyone tell me if a A9X is just a SL/R 5000 with some extra goodies fitted as per wikipedia
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During 1977, the LX series also saw the development of another limited build high-performance option aimed at winning in Australian Touring Car racing, and in particular at the annual Bathurst 1000 touring car race. This was the 'A9X Option' that was available on the 5.0-litre V8 powered SLR 5000 sedan and SS hatchback models.^[11] The A9X visually resembled the L34 optioned LH model, but with the addition of a rear-ward facing bonnet scoop that was specially designed to increase airflow through the engine bay to produce maximum power in racing conditions. The A9X package varied from the old L34 in road form in that whilst the engine was not modified, the A9X nevertheless had some special mechanical features such as rear disc brakes, heavy duty axles and a heavy duty '10 bolt' differential.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:09 PM

In order to buy an A9X sedan or hatch, you had to buy an L31 SLR 5000 or SS hatch from your Holden Dealer and add the A9X option to it..

Funny way of buying an A9X but that's how they did it back then, and the A9X cars you saw at the racetrack used some of the parts that were homologated from the L34
(but thats another story and usually ends in a shit fight about L34 and A9X owners/purists about which car is better).

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#3 _My74LH_

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:11 PM

So in reality you can refer to it as a A9X SL/R or A9X SS?

Edited by My74LH, 29 February 2012 - 06:13 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:19 PM

Most people refer to an 'A9X' as a 'A9X'.

They don't say I have a SLR A9X or an SS A9X (but in reality they do).

There's alot of prestige and heritage etc when you own the real deal.

P.S. If you get a chance have a read of the L34 v A9X debate in this thread.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:31 PM

Argh..what a difficult question to answer without writing a book about it..The A9X was basically an optioned up LX SL/R5000 Sedan or SS Hatchback coupe. They have quite a few similarities but also quite a few differences for example..the A9X bodyshells were fitted with UC style rear floorpans to fit the Salisbury disc brake rear end and suspension package, they also had quite distinctive appearance differences..but yes they to call an A9X an A9X SL/R5000 or an A9X SS would not be incorrect as that's how they were badged from the factory.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:04 PM

There were over 110 differences between the cars, and when you have crawled all over one you start to see how may parts that they had made specifically for the A9X and just not borrowed from the holden parts bin. There are a lot of subtle differences between the UC patch and the A9X patch, even to the thickness of the exhaust hangers. Had the two side by side and you can tell!

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:54 PM

You couldn't buy an SLR5000 and add the A9X package. According to Holden A9X was an option on the SLR5000 and SS5000, but technically the A9X was a model of it's own.. Once A9X was released however, you couldn't get a standard SLR5000 or SS5000 manual. A couple did however slip through.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:21 PM

Apologies RED..when i said you could call an A9X an A9X SS i did mean SS5000!

There are a lot of subtle differences between the UC patch and the A9X patch, even to the thickness of the exhaust hangers. Had the two side by side and you can tell!

I have been told this too, which is why i called it "UC Style" as it was apparently very similar but not exactly the same.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:49 PM

There were over 110 differences between the cars, and when you have crawled all over one you start to see how may parts that they had made specifically for the A9X and just not borrowed from the holden parts bin. There are a lot of subtle differences between the UC patch and the A9X patch, even to the thickness of the exhaust hangers. Had the two side by side and you can tell!

113 apparently!!!!
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:25 AM

The A9X is in essence is a L31 SLR5000 with the A9X option code, and the same with SS L31 Hatch, so really A9X owners really own a SLR5000 or a SS L31 Hatch with the factory A9X option, so they do own a SLR5000 or a SS L31 :stirpot:

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:38 AM

The A9X is in essence is a L31 SLR5000 with the A9X option code, and the same with SS L31 Hatch, so really A9X owners really own a SLR5000 or a SS L31 Hatch with the factory A9X option, so they do own a SLR5000 or a SS L31

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#12 _outer control_

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

The A9X was and is an intregal model on its own right not something that can be rebirthed or copied properly using SLR500 or SS L31 as the base

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:50 AM

My SS L31 Hatch was a 9/1977 LX L31 SS Hatch, i thought the A9X came out in sept 1977, So the L31 SS Hatch was around with the A9X ??????????, i have seen a 2/1978 SS was only a 4.2 one but was a 1978 model

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:15 PM

As I said some slipped through. These would have been cars already in the producction line when A9X was being built. Compliance doesn't always reflect the actual date of producion either.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:18 PM

Thanks Red

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:56 PM

It's interesting, I had a Nov 77 SS hatch 4.2l. I rang Holden years ago to get one of those letters they provide. The phone went quiet and they came back saying my car was actually an A9X. I knew that couldn't be right, but when I checked it against the A9X's the PSN was J59..34, while there was an A9X that was J59..32, so it was on the line with the A9X's. The chassis number was very close as well. As you can imagine though, Sep 77 the A9X would have had priority.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:40 PM

It would make a cool number plate thought A9X SLR .

Edited by My74LH, 01 March 2012 - 03:40 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:42 PM

It's interesting, I had a Nov 77 SS hatch 4.2l. I rang Holden years ago to get one of those letters they provide. The phone went quiet and they came back saying my car was actually an A9X. I knew that couldn't be right, but when I checked it against the A9X's the PSN was J59..34, while there was an A9X that was J59..32, so it was on the line with the A9X's. The chassis number was very close as well. As you can imagine though, Sep 77 the A9X would have had priority.

So what your confirming is that an A9X is just a pimped SL/R ?

Edited by My74LH, 01 March 2012 - 03:43 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:44 PM

The A9X was and is an intregal model on its own right not something that can be rebirthed or copied properly using SLR500 or SS L31 as the base

Is this really true? i mean chassis wise what really was there that was different except for the rear floor pan?

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#20 _My74LH_

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:03 PM

Found this

SLR5000 is a special vehicle package (option code XU2) based upon an LH and LX SL/R. Basically the same principle as a HZ Sandman (XX7/XU3) or a HQ GTS 4 door (XV4). Nothing special really, just a sports version of the standard car, much like an SS Commodore is today.

A9X is the option code for an homolgation vehicle package, but this time based only on (late) LX SLR5000 and SS hatchback. It was a homologation package to get suspension, diff and brake upgrades into race cars. Early form of the Group A Commodores essentially. The homolgation equivalent version in LH was an LH XU2 with L34 engine option (which came with other goodies too like bigger brakes)

http://www.gmh-toran...5000-stand-for/

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:06 PM

You can seen what I mean, The circle is getting smaller and smaller, and around and around we go, and who knows who's right.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:22 PM

So what your confirming is that an A9X is just a pimped SL/R ?

Where in your quote did I say that??

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#23 _My74LH_

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:52 PM

Just my interpretation of ,

It's interesting, I had a Nov 77 SS hatch 4.2l. I rang Holden years ago to get one of those letters they provide. The phone went quiet and they came back saying my car was actually an A9X.

I guess it’s the same as a current HSV, still a commodore isn’t it , All said and done I guess If I dropped 70k plus on a car I wouldn’t associate it with its cheaper option either .

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:03 PM

I think its a bit different in this case, its more about heritage with the A9X..it was a race bred car built with the purpose of homologation something which cant really be said about the current HSV crummydores.