6cyl and v8 brakes are the same. The standard brakes are ok with stock power, but worth an upgrade if you're chasing more.
14 inch rims
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:20 AM
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:07 AM
i can run 14 x 8 hotwires over vn callipers and rotors on a 9 inch diff.
this was my setup at our recent drag day.
they clear easily yet when i ordered my diff they told me id need 15,s to clear these??????
they work well i just use bendix ultimates .
this was my setup at our recent drag day.
they clear easily yet when i ordered my diff they told me id need 15,s to clear these??????
they work well i just use bendix ultimates .
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:49 AM
which vn brakes did u use on the back?? im guessing just 6cyl vn? or are they the same anyway...
what brakes do u have on the front??
what brakes do u have on the front??
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Rear brakes are all the same
edit: clearance is probably improved if you're not running Commodore wheels, Torana/HQ offset means that they don't sit as far over the calipers
edit: clearance is probably improved if you're not running Commodore wheels, Torana/HQ offset means that they don't sit as far over the calipers
Edited by 76lxhatch, 18 January 2013 - 10:19 AM.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:10 PM
Just make sure you use beam axle not IRS brakes
They are different
They are different
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:33 PM
im picking up a full vn diff disc to disc from commwreck for $120 with the hand brake cable this weekend and might leave front brakes stock untill i figure out what i want to do..
i just want the diff on already its taking up room in the shed.
anybody think this is a bad move?? im thinking of running spacer /adaptor at the back and stock torry brakes up front with commy booster and i think ford mc as ive seen datto recommend in another thread..
what you guys reckon??
this way when the funds come in for wheels i can upgrade front brakes to commy, take adaptors off rears and get wheels in commy pattern probably convo pro's..
or big fr simmons if i win the lotto
i just want the diff on already its taking up room in the shed.
anybody think this is a bad move?? im thinking of running spacer /adaptor at the back and stock torry brakes up front with commy booster and i think ford mc as ive seen datto recommend in another thread..
what you guys reckon??
this way when the funds come in for wheels i can upgrade front brakes to commy, take adaptors off rears and get wheels in commy pattern probably convo pro's..
or big fr simmons if i win the lotto
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:20 PM
Spacers or adapters are illegal AFAIK.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:26 PM
You might find the diff too wide
So spacers would be out of the question anyway
So spacers would be out of the question anyway
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:46 PM
not sure what AFAIK means sorry..
not planning on using vn diff sorry should have been more specific..
i have a 9" with commodore pattern to suit torana, this is where the whole brake conversion issue started.
if adaptors are illegal i might have to roll with chasers untill i buy new wheels.
dont think cops will pick up on adaptors anyway plus cars gonna be driven only when the moon turns blue
so with new 9" info is there any objections in using the vn rear brakes now??
not planning on using vn diff sorry should have been more specific..
i have a 9" with commodore pattern to suit torana, this is where the whole brake conversion issue started.
if adaptors are illegal i might have to roll with chasers untill i buy new wheels.
dont think cops will pick up on adaptors anyway plus cars gonna be driven only when the moon turns blue
so with new 9" info is there any objections in using the vn rear brakes now??
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:51 AM
As Far As I Know.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:17 PM
Ok have been trying to fit the rear vn brake setup on the 9" and have been having afew problems..
First is that the park brake will not fit not even close due to the bolts holding the axle in being huge compared to the vn ones and are touching the park brake shoes, might just grind the inside, is this ok?
Has anyone else done this conversion and has some pics or helpfull info..
Also trying to put calipers on the front to avoid touching the shocks and can see that the handbrake cable will have to come arond the back somehow is this right or is there a way to make life abit easier
First is that the park brake will not fit not even close due to the bolts holding the axle in being huge compared to the vn ones and are touching the park brake shoes, might just grind the inside, is this ok?
Has anyone else done this conversion and has some pics or helpfull info..
Also trying to put calipers on the front to avoid touching the shocks and can see that the handbrake cable will have to come arond the back somehow is this right or is there a way to make life abit easier
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:20 PM
How about you post some pics first
Theres a whole thread on this here somewhere
Theres a whole thread on this here somewhere
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:03 AM
Been doing big hours at work, will get some pics up when I can.
So far its coming along, I grindered some metal off the inside of park brake shoes snd they sit now but bolts are still too big and need to be sorted..
Shouldve stuck with drums
So far its coming along, I grindered some metal off the inside of park brake shoes snd they sit now but bolts are still too big and need to be sorted..
Shouldve stuck with drums
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:17 PM
Ok so plans have changed.
Ive scored myself 15" wheels for a reasonable price but as like always they are h pattern as apposed to me trying to fit commy brakes all this time..
Oh well I guess these things happen.
Now I think ill be following majority and going hq brakes but didnt realise they are in such high demand.
Hoppers just quoted me $1300 for the 290mm kit and said that all the ebay stuff are cheap copies.
Not wanting to spend that figure really..
The other two shops rods and crs said I need drum stub axles that are near extinct atm..
Plus one of those guys quoted me $250 for the bracket that holds the caliper for a commy brake.
Bit steep I reckon.
What I have found and coming to my question is wb brakes..
I know theyre not exactly the same but are they as good as hq??
Should I just wait untill I find a good set of hq or go for the wb?
Also im thinking of getting my rear axles welded and redrilled to h pattern and also drilling hq to blank vn discs since they were abit of a pain
to fit, plus finding hz rears is another drama by the looks of it. Unless wb rear discs are ok?
Any objections, criticism or help is appreciated like always....
If someone has brakes for sale let me know please
Ive scored myself 15" wheels for a reasonable price but as like always they are h pattern as apposed to me trying to fit commy brakes all this time..
Oh well I guess these things happen.
Now I think ill be following majority and going hq brakes but didnt realise they are in such high demand.
Hoppers just quoted me $1300 for the 290mm kit and said that all the ebay stuff are cheap copies.
Not wanting to spend that figure really..
The other two shops rods and crs said I need drum stub axles that are near extinct atm..
Plus one of those guys quoted me $250 for the bracket that holds the caliper for a commy brake.
Bit steep I reckon.
What I have found and coming to my question is wb brakes..
I know theyre not exactly the same but are they as good as hq??
Should I just wait untill I find a good set of hq or go for the wb?
Also im thinking of getting my rear axles welded and redrilled to h pattern and also drilling hq to blank vn discs since they were abit of a pain
to fit, plus finding hz rears is another drama by the looks of it. Unless wb rear discs are ok?
Any objections, criticism or help is appreciated like always....
If someone has brakes for sale let me know please
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:57 AM
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0 downloadsWith disc off, u can see parkbrake finally sits nice
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0 downloadsAs u can see in this pic I had to grind off a fair bit of metal to clear the nut n bolt that hokds the axle in.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:07 AM
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0 downloadsI also had to machine down the nut to make them fit...
Abit shonky I know...
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0 downloadsNow they fit nicely as u can see, but not sure if I have done the right thing
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0 downloadsFront view
Sorry its my first time uploading pics so theyre not in order or perfect.
Sooo... What you guys reckon??
Like I said previously the bolts holding axle in is alot bigger then the ones on the vn diff so thats where all this started..
Now if anyone thinks this is dodgy or unroady please let me know asap before I throw it all back together with new discs..
Im in the process of getting my axles pattern changed from commy to hq, then getting blank commy discs and drilling hq holes into them...
Any feedback is aporeciated
Thanks
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:15 PM
Since its got Ford flanges on the diff not Holden thats most of your problem
If it picked up on the original holes (Holden) you'd have a bolt on set up
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:47 PM
Well is what ive done ok??
Or should I consider changing flanges to holden??
Also while ive got ur wisdom, is wb front brakes ok or should I continue to hunt for hq?
And what u think of the way im planning my stud pattern on rear? As ive described above
Or should I consider changing flanges to holden??
Also while ive got ur wisdom, is wb front brakes ok or should I continue to hunt for hq?
And what u think of the way im planning my stud pattern on rear? As ive described above
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