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XUI BODY IDENTENTIFICATION

Started by meroo149 , Jan 19 2013 01:08 PM

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#26 _sunburst73-xu1_

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

Dane, my feeling is if the dealer had ordered a car to be built with the optional 4spd box then the shifter hole in the floor pan would have been stamped in the normal 'D' shape during production.

I'm still leaning towards the Dealer having organised/performed most if not all of the ordered options themselves.
As has been said many times before, the Dealers would agree to almost anything to make a sale.

Cheers
Dave.

Understand Dave, but funny things would have happened back in the day, matter of fact they still do today. Last year we had a brand new X5 turn up at work that was a special order and took 6 months to arrive for the customer and it was a special trim order(white Dakota leather) only to turn up with standard Black leather. It then sat in the shed where I work out of getting changed over for 2 or so months.

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#27 _1973bathxu1_

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

john hi i looked at my 71 ck xu1 a 1 owner unrestored, after reading this thread and the exelerater is mounted on the floor with the 2 screws,

i also rang a friend who has a 10/71 ck xu1, his car also has the 2 screws in the exelerater

ill try and get a photo for u

regards aldo

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

john hi i looked at my 71 ck xu1 a 1 owner unrestored, after reading this thread and the exelerater is mounted on the floor with the 2 screws,

i also rang a friend who has a 10/71 ck xu1, his car also has the 2 screws in the exelerater

ill try and get a photo for u

regards aldo

Could this be another Adelaide vs Brisbane thing?

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#29 _1973bathxu1_

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

dave hi no i doubt it as my xu1 is a brissy and my friends car is an adelaide

gongs ck is only a few cars away from mine on the assembly line

regards aldo

Edited by 1973bathxu1, 23 January 2013 - 07:23 PM.

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#30 _LONA-CK_

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

yeh and i change my floor because of all the race shit that was in there i now run a 73 doubled skin floor. but funny you say that has i have a mate that has a one owner 7-71 lc gtr and his car has the lj pedal, mabe back to whats on the shelf bullshit.

back to the shifter thing it would have being cut buy the dealer has he would not of thought to change the cross member and that alone would make the aussie 4 speed hit on the floor with the original opel cross member.

you say you needed to rebuild the box a few time was it a jurkying to drive, was it the back sharft you needed to fix or re place each time, mabe using the wrong cross member was that problem all along.

cheers gong

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#31 hanra

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

WTF does CK bloody stand for???

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#32 _LC870_

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

With it being an LC S model there would not have been a hole or a stencilled hole in the first place. So could it be either 2 things,1 the factory cutting a hole in it after the shell was put together or 2 it was in fact sent to the dealer and the dealer done the change over?????As mentioned above, I have only seen factory D shaped shifter holes. cheers

This is not correct .

My Adelaide bulit LC S model was a factory column change automatic car.
There was also a D shaped hole in the tunnel covered by and plate with 4 screws.

Regards LC870

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:13 PM

WTF does CK bloody stand for???

CK is the XU1 186 engine prefix. C = LC Torana, K =186 ci.
Prior to the change to the CK prefix the LC XU1 186 ci engine prefix was 3100X.

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#34 hanra

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:16 PM

Thanks Dave! Who'd have thought these little cars could have so many confusing attributes?

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#35 meroo149

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:27 AM

HI - The floor tunnel was definitely not done by the dealer as i saw the car when it arrived and we soughted out where the stripes were to finish as it had no GTR badge only the S badge further up on the side to the roof. The hole was definite the suarish design. No welding or cutting. I had to buy a different book re the M20 to fix it as the original big lc manual did not cover it. Boot and plate were the squarish design.
The reason the box was out - 19years old - too harsh on the changes - syncro rings replaced twice - broken circlip and destroyed the main shaft.
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#36 _LONA-CK_

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:20 AM

after spending the last couple of nights going over all my pics from the strip down of my ck race car, i found one pic of the pedal and it was a lj one [BUT] on the floor where the two screws go on the standard xu1 it looks like that part was broke off and is still sitting there or it might be just a bit of carpet.
has to the shift hole, its got me stumped then.

cheers gong

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#37 _1973bathxu1_

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:18 AM

john hi the only thing i can think of regarding the square hole is,back in my day when we pulled engines a gear boxes out and put back in together the gear shift used to give us a headache when putting the 3 bolts and linkages back in, a friend spat the dummy every time he dropped the bolt hed have to drag himself under the car to get it,so he trimmed the hole to a square,so it was easier to rebolt shifter, to my recolection i ve never seen a factory square hole,
regards aldo

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#38 _L34 Hooon_

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:51 PM

A mates brisvegus ck 9-71 has the D cutout, a square bracket thingy and a square rubber. It's got the lc accelerater pedal to. Hope this doesn't add to the confussion.

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#39 _LONA-CK_

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

no it just makes the truth better.

cheers gong

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#40 Potta

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:36 AM

This is not correct .

My Adelaide bulit LC S model was a factory column change automatic car.
There was also a D shaped hole in the tunnel covered by and plate with 4 screws.

Regards LC870

My LC 4 dr SL with 3 on the tree also has the D shaped hole with a plate over it.

I was hoping it might make it easier when I convert to manual.

Edited by Potta, 27 January 2013 - 12:36 AM.

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#41 _1973bathxu1_

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:35 AM

potta high it will be easier, u wont have to cut anything the hole will be exact to fit your g/box

regards aldo

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#42 _sunburst73-xu1_

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:59 AM

This is not correct .

My Adelaide bulit LC S model was a factory column change automatic car.
There was also a D shaped hole in the tunnel covered by and plate with 4 screws.

Regards LC870

Having said that I've seen plenty that hasn't either.

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#43 grumpy xu1

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:54 AM

Apparently, when you do the 4speed floor shift conversion ( you pick up a telescopc magnet) on the way home so you don't have to hope under car all the time

i have 1 @ work & i could nearly hire it out & my telescopic led mirror & numerous other tools i'm stupid enough to lend ??? Dont forget it was a production line so when something ran out it got changed over they built cars for $$ i've worked in assembly we used every last item till it was gone, near no-one really gave a shit about these up to $3,500 cars it was just a job to pay the 20% + interest on the mortgage & not hand built there naturally will be differences best of luck with your xu1 purchase, all these xu1's & other toranas are special & unfortunately rare to see on a road now thank's to dickheads, rust, scrapo's & racers i allmost cause an accident from excitement when i see 1 & sounds like you ran a t56 manual don't get me started on those hope my new 1 handles some hp

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#44 meroo149

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:30 AM

Hi - It seems that the 10/71,11/71 and 12/71 CK XU1 could have had a change over floor tunnel design as these were the last made for late 1971. Knowing my LC s special order was late 71 and had the LJ squarish hole ( M20 box ) in the tunnel it would be interesting to get some feed back and pictures of these cars for each of the months 10/71, 11/71 and 12/71. Especially the last batch of 20 xu1 november / december as this probably would be the change over period in manufacturing as supplies were reducing and gearing up for the LJ series was taking over. This could verify when the change over was made.
Any help is appreciated.
It seems that they all had the floor mounted pedal.
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#45 _LONA-CK_

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

here

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a double skined 73 4cyl front floor what is now in my ck xu1 and please not that the 4cyl never ha the extra under guard supports like the 6 cyl had.
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