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Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:08 PM
Hi all,i was wondering what the rarest engine would have been installed by GMH into its cars. 138 red motor ?or maybe 149?I had a 138 red motor in my LJ Torana ,but i'm not sure how many were made ,a friend of mine even had a factory 173 in his commodore VB,i havn't seen many of these.Interested in any thoughts .Paul.
_Bomber Watson_
Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:15 PM
130ci red, export only type jobbie? Would be very interesting to see if there was one in Aus.
And do you mean rare now, or rare at the time, ie the least fitted and delivered locally?
Cheers.
Edited by Bomber Watson, 21 September 2013 - 03:15 PM.
_Bomber Watson_
Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:26 PM
Overhead cam 304? WAs that fitted by holden?
_Macca97_
Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:33 PM
Not sure if they actually fitted them to any Holden cars at the time, but ive got a big article about them with pics of the castings and the front of the motor, they designed them for the euro market because Opel didn't want to use a push rod v8 so GMH design and built an OHC version, i'm not totally sure how many where produced but i thinks its around the 50-60 mark
_Mint_
Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:33 PM
Overhead cam 304? WAs that fitted by holden?
nope
_Bomber Watson_
Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:40 PM
Cheers for the clarification guys, that rules that engine out.
130ci six was fitted by holden but TMK not offered locally, so im not sure if its elegeble for this battle either.
Cheers.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:41 PM
230kw optimised VS GTS/R motor built by HRT would have to be rare. Not the standard 215 VS GTS/R motor
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:20 PM
130ci red, export only type jobbie? Would be very interesting to see if there was one in Aus.
And do you mean rare now, or rare at the time, ie the least fitted and delivered locally?
Cheers.
Yeah Bomber ,the least fitted and delivered locally,dont remember seeing to many 173s fitted and I think very few in GTRs.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:07 PM
263 of the L34 variant V8 engines were sold. Only used in one model of car.
Would the 230Kw VS GTS/R engine qualify as a GMH engine?? 
It's in a HSV which is not GMH built car.
Really interesting question though, I wonder what the numbers are for engines made in all capacity and variant of that.
_Bomber Watson_
Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:30 AM
Yeah Bomber ,the least fitted and delivered locally,dont remember seeing to many 173s fitted and I think very few in GTRs.
Plenty of 173's, count that one out, i have enough in my shed alone to make them a non rare breed lol..
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:12 AM
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:23 AM
I think the 1973 LJ XU1 full 9/2e spec 202 engine would be closer to the mark with less than 200 of them made.
_vbvbvb088_
Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:30 AM
Brabham HB? Engine definition must incluse ancillaries to make it run?
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:31 AM
not sure if we are talkin cubic capacity, or derivatives of them......but those LJ 'Bathurst"dual cast blocks (refer seperate thread ) must be the rarest....isnt only a few of the 150 actually like that?
_tryhard_
Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:02 AM
it would have to be the 253 overhead cam motor originaly fitted to the Hurricane
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:19 AM
it would have to be the 253 overhead cam motor originaly fitted to the Hurricane
The Hurricane 253 had regular heads, it wasn't OHC & the Hurricane wasn't a production Holden.
Dr Terry
_tryhard_
Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:22 AM
the origanal had overhead cam heads which where stolen or removed whislt in storage regards Marcus
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:31 PM
yikes!!...whats doing there?
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:52 PM
It would be the QT 308 V8 Engine with the XW7 Parts in it, there were 3 Built for the V8 LJ GTR Prototypes and if went into Production there would of been 200-308 V8's fitted with XW7 Parts, so the 3-QT Donks built with them XW7 Parts would be as rare as a Tassy Tiger
4/1972 308 V8 QT Engine is the one to keep a eye out for
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:33 PM
Not production, but the 400ci SBC that was in a few cars, the 350Z was one and Max Wilson's Contessa Gold GTS350 another. The 350Z was never registered but the Gold car was.
Also the BBC (427 I think) and the LT1 350's tried in HG's.
As for production engines my guess would be a low compression engine, maybe the low comp 308 in Bedford trucks and buses. Or maybe one of the later engines in low comp like a WM in a WB or a VM (red or blue) in VB-VH. Might only be sold in the 100's but maybe not as low as the 150 x final spec XU-1 engines.
I'd also think if we were going by engine number rather than actual engine something like an XQE or XZE (auto low compression ADR27A LX or UC) would be very rare, but they are the same engine as a Holden QE or ZE with the X stamped in front for Torana.
WT would be very rare as well (WB commercial 308), only a handful of these would have been made without the 11 or 12 Statesman prefix..
Edited by yel327, 22 September 2013 - 07:34 PM.
_XU1Bitchin_
Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:59 PM
Id say the w427 137 cars made only and a very close second was the 73 xu1 150s both very limited runs
Edited by XU1Bitchin, 22 September 2013 - 08:01 PM.
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