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#301 Tyre biter

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 08:45 PM

3rd link makes no sense ?

Politics rarely does Skap.

Especially this one - a DD over an issue bugger all everyday folks have any awareness of and even less interest.

Make no mistake, the government is not so committed to ABCC that it was a deal breaker - this was merely the impetus to trigger an early election whilst the pols suggested that would be a good idea.

Nothing unusual in this regard - politics 101 and I guess ultimately what that is all about - power: getting it, wielding it and keeping it.

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 09:56 PM

Notwithstanding!!

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 07:38 AM

Especially this one - a DD over an issue bugger all everyday folks have any awareness of and even less interest.

Make no mistake, the government is not so committed to ABCC that it was a deal breaker - this was merely the impetus to trigger an early election whilst the pols suggested that would be a good idea.

Gotta agree with that,

....regardless of your political persuasion....I'd hazard a guess that there isnt anyone on here, or that you even know? that you can qoute as being at the pub, or at a BBQ, or down the shed /at the races/at the beach/ or picking up the kids...or whatever.....who was heard saying........""Gee this ABCC is really worrying me, they really need to sort it out. It's so much more important to me than the econmy, jobs, health, schools and so on"".

I have never heard anyone say that.

As above, it was just a tool to trigger the new, expensive 8 week stageshow, that has distracted all the ACT idiots from doing the job they are paid to do, as opposed to running all over the country kissing babies.

The worst part of it is that after the new election, there is no guarantee that we wont end up in exacty the same position.......



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:14 AM

Yes I agree with both above statements ...   at the time the DD was being planned, the Liberals were a shoe in, but things have definitely changed since then.  I have just about always been a Liberal voter, and was very happy to see Turnbull replace Abbott.    But the Liberals have lost the plot as far as I'm concerned. They talk of Jobs creation and the Economy.  Well if you create jobs, who is going to educate and train the people for these jobs..  The Liberals keep cutting funding to Education & TAFE... ??  

 

I too believe the budget must be brought back to a more sustainable amount..  But not at the cost of the people who did not cause the problems.  Education & Health is easily as important as Tax deductions for anyone.  Let alone Businesses that are earning well over the 2 million dollar mark, and still falling into the small business label. 

 

I also believe there is need for change to welfare, both for the poor, and the rich.  I would like to see changes made to Negative Gearing on Homes.  I don't think it is right that everyone who earns a dollar today, has to pay a portion of that,  to someone who may be buying his 10th Investment Property.. 

 

The Labor Party are making ground on the Liberals, and it will be very close...  Lets hope Australia gets better Governance than it's been getting ...  :)



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:20 AM

Why are people still complaining about negative gearing whilst religious communities are taking in billions a year tax free?

Can use the same argument, if there not paying tax they are costing Australians tax money.

I would prefer old mate to have a few spare houses so he's set for retirement than some mob that likes telling fairy tales taking it in.

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:28 AM

Yep, thats all Welfare that the Australian Tax Payer should not have to fund..  and there is more waste than that..  Ex Pollies pensions ect.... 



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:31 AM

I met Ricky on Sunday.

Seems a nice bloke.

 

Give a f*ck about the rest. They'll take your money regardless. Best worry about something you can control....like your Torana :D



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:33 AM

Yep, thats all Welfare that the Australian Tax Payer should not have to fund.. and there is more waste than that.. Ex Pollies pensions ect....


I agree, but I'm pretty sure ex pollies pensions is a drop in the pond compared to religeon.

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:45 AM

Some articles I quickly found

https://www.greenlef...g.au/node/39728

http://www.theage.co...6198351877.html

Catholic church alone takes in 10 billion annually and costs the tax payer 500 mil ontop of the loss in tax revenue.

Now add all the other churches, and the Islamic council and halal tax income into that figure..... frOckin lot of money not going into the public coffers for beliefs of the few.

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 01:19 PM

Pretty sure we have some property investors on here.

But my take with the negative gearing is that it basically gives the investors the same sort of deals as most other businesses.

If you take a loss it is claimable against your other income.

I dont really see it as a huge issue.

No I dont have investment properties.

My parent used to own 3 but none of them was negative geared.

 

Welfare is a big problem. It takes somewhere around 1/3 of government spending.

I dont want to see the aged pensioners affected.

What I would like to see is the benefits for people with kids reduced.

I worked with a bloke on a job years ago. We were on 720 take home a week which was very good coin for 1996.

He was losing money going to work. He had 5 kids at home and could bring in 740 a week on welfare.

I think that is ridiculous.

Most other jobs in related work were taking home around 600 to 650 a week at the time.

To make a career out of living on welfare is immoral in my mind.

 

Another friend of mine was a social security investigator in the late 80s.

He told me there were many families in the area where the 3rd generation was on welfare.

None of them had ever worked a day in their lives.

When Austar Foxtel came, the highest number of rooftops with satellite dishes was in the high unemployment commission areas.

My parents both worked good jobs. But they could never justify the expense of satellite TV.

Bit those who suck of the public tit seemed to have no such dramas.



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 01:57 PM

Bingo.

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 03:23 PM

And.

 

I was just recently in hospital for close to 2 weeks and a social worker came and had a chat.

Frocked if I can remember how the subject came about but we ended up talking about Muslims.

 

Due to their religion they are allowed 4 wives.

We cant discriminate against this and it is allowed.

He has 1 on record as his wife, the other 3 are classified as single mothers.

He and wife1 collect benefits as a couple, the other 3 wives collect single mother pensions.

They all happily live together and the wives all have children.

Some of the wives then claim they are too stressed to look after some of their children, and so one of the other wifes puts up her hand to look after the burden. She then can claim extra money, and if she fosters said children, then their schooling and all medical including dental care is paid for by the government.

If other relatives are nearby then the same deal goes again with them. But the children all live with their parents.

Apparently this is the biggest rort in social security happening at the moment.

 

Im not silly enough to say that they are all doing it, but according to the social worker there are lots.

He had just come from working in the Bankstown Lakemba area and as such guess he had a pretty good grasp of the situation.

 

We really do need a major shake up of the welfare system but I doubt that any politician would do anything because something like that would probably lose them their seats.



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 03:29 PM

And.

I was just recently in hospital for close to 2 weeks and a social worker came and had a chat.
Frocked if I can remember how the subject came about but we ended up talking about Muslims.

Due to their religion they are allowed 4 wives.
We cant discriminate against this and it is allowed.
He has 1 on record as his wife, the other 3 are classified as single mothers.
He and wife1 collect benefits as a couple, the other 3 wives collect single mother pensions.
They all happily live together and the wives all have children.
Some of the wives then claim they are too stressed to look after some of their children, and so one of the other wifes puts up her hand to look after the burden. She then can claim extra money, and if she fosters said children, then their schooling and all medical including dental care is paid for by the government.
If other relatives are nearby then the same deal goes again with them. But the children all live with their parents.
Apparently this is the biggest rort in social security happening at the moment.

Im not silly enough to say that they are all doing it, but according to the social worker there are lots.
He had just come from working in the Bankstown Lakemba area and as such guess he had a pretty good grasp of the situation.

We really do need a major shake up of the welfare system but I doubt that any politician would do anything because something like that would probably lose them their seats.


That is crap...

And I hope your ok, 2 weeks in hospital and social workers doesn't sound real flash.

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:39 PM

Crap as in false?

 

Waiting times before transfer for specialist procedures when you live in a regional area suck.

 

Blocked arteries on the heart.

 

Ive actually heard the same from some different sources.

The social worker seemed a stand up type and he wasnt happy with the situation.

 

But the same group of people years ago used to run classes for people seeking compo for crook backs.

I know that is factual because an old mate of mine went to one of them.

 

They tend to find all the loopholes in the systems for their own benefit.



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:55 PM

Nah, crap as in frOck those Cunning Stunts.. ;)

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 07:10 AM

Polygamy is illegal in Australia so.....

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 07:21 AM

Stopping them is "racist" and mentioning it makes you a "bigot" and a "redneck"

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:19 AM

This racist rednecked bigot is getting angry just reading this. :furious:



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:08 AM

Polygamy is illegal in Australia so.....

 

Thats why they have the other wives on single mother pensions. We dont recognise the extra wives but accept them in another way.

Apparently we arent allowed to offend them for some reason



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:08 PM

C'mon guys, don't be so prejudiced! We should welcome the muslims with open arms. Melbourne is leading the way by allowing a new development built SPECIFICALLY for muslims!

 

 

http://www.news.com....d1f1785dcd17acb

 

 

PEOPLE have slammed a new development in Melbourne, calling it “a ghetto of Islam”.

 

A block in Melton South will be transformed into housing targeted at the Islamic community, with 75 separate lots and a mosque built in the middle of the neighbourhood.
It’s called Iqra Village and is said to become Victoria’s largest faith-based housing.


The development, which featured on A Current Affair on Monday night, sparked a lot of outrage on social media and there were myriad racist comments, with some even saying it shouldn’t be allowed.


“What a joke. If Australians build an Australian only suburb, we would all be racists,” a comment on Twitter said.

 

 

 

 ^^^ Note how the article describes objectors as "racist" - despite the fact that Islam is not a race...



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:10 PM

Glad I don't live in melbourne....

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:15 PM

So am I

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:20 PM

Yeah - suddenly Adelaide doesn't seem so bad...



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:20 PM

Ohhh Rodomo... Haha.

Good one kind Sir.

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:47 PM

i thought this thread was about ricky muir.






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