_SPOOK_
Posted 26 September 2016 - 10:37 PM
Hi Guys,
Looking at this LC GTR, any info would be appreciated.
LC Torana Sedan 2 Door
Build : 2/71 HG21082B
LH inner guard : LC21082B
VIN : 82911CH183735
Model: LC82911M
Body No : 153658
Paint: 568 12204
Trim : 1199 40W
Engine : 2600S27798
Thanks
Spook
ǝɹnʇxıɟ ɯnɹoɟ
Posted 26 September 2016 - 11:23 PM
Hi Spook
That one appears on the VIN disc as a GTR completed in Brisbane on 9/2/71 and sold by dealer 180 during April '71. The engine number is not listed, but 2600S27798 is within the range on engine numbers used during that period. It would be prudent to check the casting date on the engine block.
Note the mistake in the Chassis Number on the ADR tag. It should be "LC" not "HG" (this mistake has been mentioned on this forum in the past).
All the numbers are consistent datewise.
The colour is Indy Orange and the trim is black with black and white houndstooth inserts.
Cheers
Bazza
_SPOOK_
Posted 26 September 2016 - 11:50 PM
Thanks Bazza
I have seen the HG mistake mentioned before, is this something that happened from factory every now and then. What range of casting dates would be consistent with engine blocks used in that period?
Spook
Scrivet Counter
Posted 27 September 2016 - 12:13 AM
Thanks Bazza
I have seen the HG mistake mentioned before, is this something that happened from factory every now and then. What range of casting dates would be consistent with engine blocks used in that period?
Spook
Most likely cast dates would be xx L 0 or xx M 0.
x or xx = day of the month.
L = November
M = December
0 = 1970
ǝɹnʇxıɟ ɯnɹoɟ
Posted 27 September 2016 - 12:27 AM
Hi Spook
Mistakes on the tags are not uncommon.
The cast date for a 2600S277xx could be as early as J (Sept) or K (Oct) 1970. I have records of a 260028xxx being cast in (K) Oct and a 2600S33xxx in (M) Dec '70. There can sometimes be quite a lag between casting, numbering and fitting the engines.
Cheers
Bazza
_SPOOK_
Posted 27 September 2016 - 11:18 AM
L 17 0 is cast date.
Head ; cast no : 7438296 Cast date : B 16 0
Edited by SPOOK, 27 September 2016 - 11:33 AM.
Scrivet Counter
Posted 27 September 2016 - 12:03 PM
L 17 0 is cast date.
Head ; cast no : 7438296 Cast date : B 16 0
Not the cyl head that was originally fitted to that block that's for sure.
Forum Member
Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:01 PM
I'm guessing that the below is a gen LC XU-1 (at least it looks it from the photos)
82911CL160159
Body No. 2029-A
chassis# 19119A (?)
engine # 3100X22180
currently sitting at NZ$20k on trademe...
Scrivet Counter
Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:19 PM
I'm guessing that the below is a gen LC XU-1 (at least it looks it from the photos)
82911CL160159
Body No. 2029-A
chassis# 19119A (?)
engine # 3100X22180
currently sitting at NZ$20k on trademe...
Yes, 82911CL160159 is an LC GTR XU1 completed on the 28/09/1970 and has a 000X dealer code.
No engine number is recorded however X22180 is within range for that time frame.
Edited by S pack, 13 October 2016 - 07:20 PM.
Forum Member
Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:30 PM
Thanks - if it were a bit closer to where I live, I'd go & have a look at it.
Forum Fan
Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:44 AM
Thanks - if it were a bit closer to where I live, I'd go & have a look at it.
I went up and had a look at it, needs heaps of work. A new rear quarter and rear panel wouldn't go a stray or a very good panelbeater.
Edited by GTR-1, 16 October 2016 - 05:46 AM.
_LouiseR_
Posted 23 October 2016 - 09:02 AM
Hi there 
Just looking for some further information on this one please.
The 3 plates specify...
Holden LC Torana Sedan 2 door
7/71
ALC37026B
Seating Capacity 5
General Motors Holden Pty Ltd
2911CH201965
Body Identification
Model LC82911M
Body No 23117B
Trim 1821 40V
Paint 568 13134
From what I've found out previously I think it's an LC XU-1, 1971 Brisbane made, glacier white in colour
Thanks very much,
Louise
_ezhill_
Posted 23 October 2016 - 05:54 PM
Afternoon folks,
As per usual i have a torrie missing some numbers. I believe it a bit suspect but love driving it anyway. Here we go. Chassis number ALJ16200B. Model LJ82911, Body 85608+A, Trim 1868-50X.
Something that really sparked my curiosity was that some paperwork came with the car. A GMH letter of LJ XU1 authentication from Fishermans Bend Melbourne but the engine stated is not in the vehicle. Current engine is QL 187116. I also have a stolen vehicle Police report dating back to 10/1993. it states the serial number was 92010442 and recovered at Runaway Bay but in the GMH letter it states 8D11PCH275475. The GMH letter says engine number JP327574. this engine is sitting in Chassis BLJ34494B. I can post the paperwork if required to confirm what i am saying. As you can understand it is all very confusing.
Regards EZHILL.
Scrivet Counter
Posted 25 October 2016 - 10:43 PM
Afternoon folks,
As per usual i have a torrie missing some numbers. I believe it a bit suspect but love driving it anyway. Here we go. Chassis number ALJ16200B. Model LJ82911, Body 85608+A, Trim 1868-50X.
Something that really sparked my curiosity was that some paperwork came with the car. A GMH letter of LJ XU1 authentication from Fishermans Bend Melbourne but the engine stated is not in the vehicle. Current engine is QL 187116. I also have a stolen vehicle Police report dating back to 10/1993. it states the serial number was 92010442 and recovered at Runaway Bay but in the GMH letter it states 8D11PCH275475. The GMH letter says engine number JP327574. this engine is sitting in Chassis BLJ34494B. I can post the paperwork if required to confirm what i am saying. As you can understand it is all very confusing.
Regards EZHILL.
G/day Eric
Chassis number ALJ16200B is a November 1972 Brisbane build LJ Torana.
Body No. 85608A is from a 7 or 8th month 1973 Adelaide build LJ Torana.
8D11PCH275475 is a Brisbane build LJ GTR XU1 completed on 30/04/1973 and engine number JP327574 and Chassis number BLJ34494B are correct for that Vin number.
In a nutshell the Vin tag and the Body ID plate are from two cars built at different assembly plants and neither of those tags are original to your body shell.
Edited by S pack, 25 October 2016 - 10:44 PM.
ǝɹnʇxıɟ ɯnɹoɟ
Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:25 AM
Hi there
Just looking for some further information on this one please.
The 3 plates specify...
Holden LC Torana Sedan 2 door7/71
ALC37026B
Seating Capacity 5
General Motors Holden Pty Ltd
2911CH201965
Body Identification
Model LC82911M
Body No 23117B
Trim 1821 40V
Paint 568 13134
From what I've found out previously I think it's an LC XU-1, 1971 Brisbane made, glacier white in colour
Thanks very much,
Louise
Hi Louise
Sorry that your post was missed.
Unfortunately not an XU-1 but still a rare LC Torana GTR. It is one of 600 odd LC GTRs built in the latter part of 1971 and fitted with the 2850S (173S) engine. It was completed in Brisbane on 16/7/71 and appears to have been used internally by GMH in Sydney. As a result of the internal use, no engine number is recorded but it would have been in the CF166xx region. Glacier white with black vinyl trim. All the numbers provided are consistent with the build date.
Cheers
Bazza
_Merladdin_
Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:43 PM
Hi All,
Firstly i just want to show my appreciation for having such a great service, as an old LJ owner i like many are now in line to purchase a LJ GTR - (if we only knew then what they would be worth hey
been looking for a while for one i thought would be worthy of my hard earned, recently what seems to be a neat example has popped up, there were no tags in the photos of the car online, so after contacting the owner and asking if it would be ok to see them, he sent me the following information : if there is any one that could help me determine what it is i might get some sleep.
i have tried looking up my self and am reasonably confident but i know nothing compared to you seasoned vets out there, so leaning on your assistance.
this is what has been sent to me.
skinny tag says
82911jh228657 - i think hard to read..
model reads
lj82911b - i think its a b
body reads
03395b
next line i can only see numbers not what it relates to 1845 20x?
next line same 567 13885
then it says at bottom of tag
b v
other large tag says
4/72 alj 03312b
engine #
vl440612
inner guard says
03312b
thats all i have guys, hope its enough
looking forward to any assistance..
its a +50k car so i really want to be sure as i can
TIA
LADS
_Dave78_
Posted 21 November 2016 - 01:08 AM
ǝɹnʇxıɟ ɯnɹoɟ
Posted 21 November 2016 - 09:23 AM
Hi David
No problem there. This a phenomenon peculiar to Brisbane built LJ Toranas. It arises because the Chassis Numbers and Body Numbers are not issued 'lock-step' with each other. Although the sequences would have commenced at the same point ie. ALJ00001B and Body Number 00001-B, over time the difference between them drifts in and out. I have only ever seen 1 example the both numbers are the same. Commonly the numbers are 5 or 6 apart but can be as much as 30 different.
Cheers
Bazza
_Dave78_
Posted 21 November 2016 - 11:24 AM
_Merladdin_
Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:25 PM
Hi Guys,
found a work mate of mine who is selling his LJ S model 2 door.
it has new gtr interior etc and is supposedly to have an XU1 engine / running gear - could i please ask your assistance on identifying this car / motor coorectly
here is what he has given me.
Engine number is JP219807
BLJ27461A
LJ82311 model
B11lcl249127j
8/73
187059E trim ?
56715337 paint
car interior in apart / but car is rolling with engine and gear etc
needs rubber kit front glass and full paint work
i can get it fro 20 -25k
any help appreciated
thx
jamie
Scrivet Counter
Posted 28 November 2016 - 08:51 PM
G/day Jamie
L249127 is an Adelaide build 82311 LJ Torana S completed on 6/08/1973 and factory optioned with a 202 HC engine and disc front brakes, 4spd manual transmission and a 3.08:1 ratio conventional differential.
The original engine number recorded is L371959 and the car was sold by Dealer 066 in 8/73.
567-15337 is Sunburst Metallic and 59E is Chestnut Sadlon vinyl.
XU1 engine JP219807 came from H248468, a Brisbane build GTR XU1 completed on 12/09/1972.
Admin
Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:09 PM
I've had a call to verify a car and since its one of those little toranas, I have no idea. Any help is appreciated.
The info I have is
Chassis 8D11LCL232494J
Body 8LJ197347 (DLJ19734A) he mentioned this number as well.
Model LJ82911
Body No 1555-A
Trim 1816-50X
Paint 568-12692
_Skapinad_
Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:17 PM
Hi Guys,
found a work mate of mine who is selling his LJ S model 2 door.
it has new gtr interior etc and is supposedly to have an XU1 engine / running gear - could i please ask your assistance on identifying this car / motor coorectly
here is what he has given me.
Engine number is JP219807
BLJ27461A
LJ82311 model
B11lcl249127j
8/73
187059E trim ?
56715337 paint
car interior in apart / but car is rolling with engine and gear etc
needs rubber kit front glass and full paint work
i can get it fro 20 -25k
any help appreciated
thx
jamie
Yep, that motor sold on ebay a while back. strange to but it and put it in a S model.
if you buy it, sell off the JP and put a V8 in it. probably wont cost you a cent with the silly amounts people pay for a JP, particularly a JP to suit a 9/72 car.
Scrivet Counter
Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:36 PM
I've had a call to verify a car and since its one of those little toranas, I have no idea. Any help is appreciated.
The info I have is
Chassis 8D11LCL232494J
Body 8LJ197347 (DLJ19734A) he mentioned this number as well.
Model LJ82911
Body No 1555-A
Trim 1816-50X
Paint 568-12692
VIN number 8D11LCL232494J belongs to an Adelaide build LJ GTR completed on 2/03/1973.
The original engine number was JL290314.
BLJ19734A is the Chassis number. Body 8LJ197347 (DLJ19734A)
Paint 568-12692 is Tangerine and 50X is Black vinyl
8D11LCL232494J was sold by Dealer 822 during 3/73.
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